Just Someone explain to me What is the counterplay to mages damage ?

Hi Its Scirocco·1/28/2020, 1:10:40 AM·3 votes·3,921 views

Whats the counterplay to mages damage ? we reached a point rightnow that mage can just burst half ur health with 1 basic spell thats probably on low cooldown ... My probleme is That it doesnt matter if u build resistance ? one, item 3020 item 3135 is 2650 item That gives u 70 ap and 40 % magic penetration, item 3916 Still exist in game , ... Whats is the point if u just gona build 1 mr item and its been negatited by less cheaper item ? and because for Some fuking reason, mages item give so much fuking dmg While they have so much good defensive option item 3157 , best active in game, item 3007 this item on its own is busted with infinit man and increase ap base on mana and lets not even talk about that broken shield, item 3102 her stat are too good, item 3027 , item 3151 That makes playing tank into mage nightmare ... etc Two, Why is most of champ base mr and scaling in game is so low When there's more ability power in game then ad Even tho, armor is high on base and there item are in ok spot, u dont belive me ? Test playing vs full ad team, High chance u'll win by late game But face full mages team ? Doesnt matter, even if u build mr ... u'll survive 1 rotation That is probably on low cooldown but u wont survive next rotation ... But u'll probably bring the argument of " But ad champ have high dmg auto attack" While i do agree This's argument is good, Just ask ur self ? Who would u win 1000 ap syndra ? 1000 ap Veigar with minimum of 52 magic pene, Oh yea Ryze with 1000 ap Vs 1000 ad Adc, 1000 ap Akali vs 1000 Zed ... do the math and u'll find out Its uncomparable honesly Three and this an other thing that puss me off about mages, Why they have to be strong at all stage ? Lets take Syndra , Lane bully, midgame powerhouse, late game she need 1 button to 1 shoot someone and its point and click ... Like ? and this exmpl applie to high majority of mages with few exception, in what world Ryze and Cassiopeia are weak early game ? its honesly biggest lie has been told by riot, Just like saying Jax has weak laning phase... Riot exuse to all this bullshitt is that if mages were brought downbet, Then adc will start killing them if they dont hit basic spell That can does half ur health... which some fking dumb bc ... This's just an exuse for bad players, so u miss 3 seconde combo that can kill an adc and u fkup now. wait ... Let me just item 3157 then item 3007 and try my seconde chance of hitting my buttons That will health bar my oppunnit and if u are too lazy honesly, Just play point click vurst champ Ryze Syndra Veigar Cassiopeia ... Who the fck need to be skillfull player anyway ? its 2020 Now this post would probably be downvoted bc god forbed if anyone talk about mages Even tho half of community complaning about base dmg being too high When realisitcly and if they open there eyes, Mages are the highest source of burst dmg in game ? i wana bring 1 more fact before ending this post That the number 1 anti mages in game Galio DrMundo suck rightnow, Only reason Ornn is good bc that champ has an assasin base dmg.

7 Comments

Gath Immortal1/28/2020, 2:35:54 AM5 votes

honestly the biggest issues here are that the damage in the game across the board is extremely high, not just for mages, but it's exacerbated for mages because they have insanely good itemization and MR items are quite frankly complete and utter trash.

Witchknight Khan1/28/2020, 1:49:45 AM3 votes

Ok let me start like this... just because someone does magic damage doesnt necessarily mean they are mages... for example katarina and akali arent mages they are assasins. Ok u compare the skill of someone with ap with the skill of someone with ad, this s also wrong cause dont forget that auto attacks dont do extra damage based on your AP even if you play lux. So ad champions do more dmg with their AA while at the same time they are buffing their skills. As for the defensive items, you still have to understand the concept of basic attacks and dps. An ad champ relies on ad for burst almost as much as an ap champ BUT he doesnt have to rely on a burst from his kills but from auto attacks as well. Lets go back to mages you mention totally diferent builds as if u could build all the items at the same time. A mage has to think about their buld really carefully and choose between CDR, mana, defense, flat ap and magic pen, u can have a conbimation of these but never all, and u are quite more heavily depended on items ( mana and cdr affect your dmg output a lot) I could go on with random diferences.... So its impossble to answer your question unless you make it more specific.

xelaker1/28/2020, 5:50:45 AM3 votes

An adc with 1000 ad is gonna be one shotting everything lmfao

Either way, I'll take immobile mages over the hyper mobile murder fest ad stuff you see more often.

Quiet Dude1/28/2020, 1:12:01 AM2 votes

You can't get hit by a mage spell if you aren't there when they cast it. Except for Karthus

2gudaiya1/28/2020, 5:57:27 PM1 votes

because no one has enough hp, there is no counterplay.

xDogMeatx2/10/2020, 6:24:37 AM1 votes

i cant wait for any team to have all AP vs me as nasus. honestly item 3194 item 3065 item 3111 item 3078 item 3156 item 3001 with this they automatically lose. no matter what. now put in iron Pot/tanacity rune now your unstoppable.