Diamond 3 is an extreme skill gate

Siegfriedx1·Jun 24, 2017·2 votes·203 views

The difference in skill that can be seen while climbing past diamond 3 is so big it feels like a complete new different elo, and I experience that many times for many years already.

Cant we make so every division in diamond require a best of 5 and the upgrade to master require a best of 10? Honestly divisions in diamond divide such large group of skill that feels bizarre the whole experience as normal divisions. You are luck in 3 games and is in master level, you get 3 afks and you are playing with low skill diamonds.

It could have a small extra protection for people to fall out but would represent better everything and carry the right feeling in diamond.

Either that or create another elo before diamond.

2 Comments

TormentulaJun 24, 20171 votes

We want rid of promotional series because its a dumb feature that proves nothing but its inconvenience, and you want to add more of it?

Here's some perspective: In a best of 5 scenario, you'd lose at least typically 17 LP per loss (assuming your MMR is stable to get to promos). At that end of that series if you lose all your games, you'd be at 15 LP, which is just bullshit to try and climb back up from if you lost that series to additional trolls or feeders (which riot confirmed, you get after a win streak through matchmaking, which you'd need a winstreak to get to promos.)

Yea there's a skillgate between d4-d3, but you can see similar skillgates in other devisions mid way through, by no means do we need anything special because d3 is where players seemingly are better than the rest of the devision when they're technically in the upper half of that devision (so no duh they're better than D5 and D4).

At that point nobody would give a damn to climb to diamond. More work for being good at the game? That doesn't seem like a fair tradeoff.

Siegfriedx1Jun 24, 20171 votes

By comparing the skill gate between diamond 3 to master and other elos you showed you don't have experience about what i am talking about and therefore should not diminish other people experiences.

You may not like it but today divisions are separated by best of 3 and elos by best of 5. The day the difference in skill between D3+ and other elos like Gold3+ turn into the same [comparing to the same elo] i would be very happy as would be just like every other elo, what is not.

You don't understand the hell of difference that comes with this climbing through this division to master and i never ever mentioned a gate between diamond 5 to diamond 4[what the fuck] . You don't understand how insane and crushing the difference turns on you after reaching D3+. I have played on every single elo and there nothing compared to that.

I play since season 3 and i have been Master-High diamond in every single elo since i start playing it, i'm not a "recently climbing guy". http://www.lolking.net/summoner/br/796297/%20Siegfriedx1#leagues Also who the hell here agree with you that all the best of 3 systems should be vanished and they are negative to the game? What people don't like is how the game decides how much pdl you should lose by defeat and how low you start after losing a series by bad luck. Nobody wants to lose pdl when they did a good job or deserved to win. Nobody wants to have 2 afks and find himself needing to climb all again and nothing about that have anything to do with the best of 3 system itself so stop crying about it. Riot even start giving free wins to people that lose series to low elos after a while.

If when you lose a game by an unfair way your pdl losses were halved i doubt any one would have any problem with it [but we don't have enough technology to apply that without being exploitable].

The point of this post is that diamond 3+ have nothing to do with other elos and the gate is so freaking heavy that it should have some special way of demonstrating that. It's not "just like all other elos".