Riot has done it again.

Clone Is Friend·Mar 25, 2019·3 votes·1,631 views

remember when people were saying that kayle is trash? welp there she is, sitting on a nearly 56% winrate with a nearly 7% pickrate.

why does riot make all reworks broken ?

20 Comments

JamareeMar 25, 201913 votes

Says all reworks make champions broken.

Name literally ask to revert Shaco his main.

[sg-lux-2]

Clone Is FriendMar 25, 20191 votes

what do u mean?

i hate current shacos playstyle. he isnt the split pusher tank/bruiser he used to be.

hes outplay potential went down a lot...

JamareeMar 25, 20197 votes

[{quoted}](name=Revert Shaco,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeM6kYF9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T07:24:08.506+0000)

what do u mean?

i hate current shacos playstyle. he isnt the split pusher tank/bruiser he used to be.

hes outplay potential went down a lot...

Win rate went up though, and in what world was Shaco a tank/brusier?

Clone Is FriendMar 25, 20191 votes

in the season 5 world where i loved shaco the most. and maybe not tank but bruiser definitely. and even if winrate went up enjoyability went down. idc about his winrate, i care about how he feels to play. i am not a meta w*ore that you might be because you care about a champions winrate. i dont want to have to build duck blade and a shit ton of other items before i can fuck people. he went from early game champ into late game and i don't like it...

JamareeMar 25, 20196 votes

[{quoted}](name=Revert Shaco,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeM6kYF9,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T07:55:08.565+0000)

in the season 5 world where i loved shaco the most. and maybe not tank but bruiser definitely.

Shaco isn't a bruiser, he didn't have anything in his kit then to be a brusier, nor anything that does now.

and even if winrate went up enjoyability went down. idc about his winrate, i care about how he feels to play. i am not a meta w*ore that you might be because you care about a champions winrate. i dont want to have to build duck blade and a shit ton of other items before i can fuck people. he went from early game champ into late game and i don't like it...

So you would rather them stay shit so you could then complain about why Riot doesn't help champions that are bad, got it.

Clone Is FriendMar 25, 20191 votes

i would love them to have a decent pickrate winrate ratio. so its not like kayle here she is in every 5th game and has a high winrate.

JamareeMar 25, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=Revert Shaco,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeM6kYF9,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T09:04:35.581+0000)

i would love them to have a decent pickrate winrate ratio. so its not like kayle here she is in every 5th game and has a high winrate.

So wait, do you want YOUR main to have a decent pick rate and win rate, but not others, I'm confused.

Clone Is FriendMar 25, 20191 votes

im talking about the thing that is, more players = smaller winrate. less players = higher winrate.

are all boards people dumb or how do u not understand what i meant.

and i dont want this garbage ass shaco champion even if he has a 55% win rate because he isnt as fun as he used to be. i dont care about shacos winrate so where did u get

YOUR main to have a decent pick rate and win rate, but not others.

i honestly could not care less if shaco has a bad winrate as long as i feel like the old playstyle works still (by works i mean i feel like i can 1v1 enemies when i get ahead).

HotarµMar 25, 20196 votes

why does riot make all reworks broken ?

The Warwick majority Nunu of Shen them Mordekaiser aren't Poppy even Ryze that Sejuani bad Taric stop Sion overexaggerating. XinZhao

Clone Is FriendMar 25, 20191 votes

broken on release i meant

HotarµMar 25, 20192 votes

Nobody is able to tell you meant broken on release. The way you worded it makes it sound like all reworked champions are broken forever.

Also, yeah, that's how new releases often go. They're either really good (Kayle, Akali, etc.) or really bad. (Aatrox)

It's kind of hard to make a good inbetween because the PBE and Riot's own test servers aren't large enough sample sizes.

Abibyama IIMar 25, 20192 votes

Morde was broken tho, so was Sejuani

HotarµMar 25, 20191 votes

On release, yeah.

Right now they have a sub-50% or 50% winrate.

DuskDaUmbreonMar 25, 20194 votes

Maybe it's because Riot isn't fucking omniscient and can't foretell exactly how strong a champion is going to be on release?

SithesisLordMar 25, 20195 votes

Reminds me of what Jinxylord said in one of his streams.

The reverted Rengar he pushed into PBE was getting absurdly high KDAs and performing exceptionally well. Pushed to live. 44% winrate that didn't budge for a while, if at all.

Skarner rework? Mains claimed it made him garbage, even after the buffs they gave him. Pushed to live. 60% winrate.

Some people will never understand that PBE is at worst a bug report server and at best, a skin showcase.

Dr DogMar 25, 20192 votes

its not kayle tho? shes op because of seal stacking ridding her of early weakness, its not kayle herself

SithesisLordMar 25, 20192 votes

Except she only because strong after QOL changes and people figuring out that Klepto circumvents her weak early game entirely.

Which i find funny, considering that champs like Jax, Irelia and Vayne have that piss easy early game without even needing Klepto, but i digress.

Also also, they're already nerfing her next patch. Both the AD build and the Klepto poke spam.