Why i with many old school shaco onetricks don't like new shaco

Clone Is Friend··9 votes·1,458 views

Shaco really doesn't feel like shaco anymore, he does almost no damage without duskblade and ap shaco is just useless.

I really liked how the old shaco was able to one shot people like assasins are suposed to do but nowadays assasins aren't really good against many champions that have some damage reduction or a lot of movement abilities like ahri or ezreal so if assassins don't get ahead on the early game its really hard to kill a squishy and get away from the enemy team because all damage shaco really has now is his duskblade,

I loved the old shaco's slow on his e and his crit on his q and ap shaco didn't suck at lategame because he used to deal a lot of ap dmg with his e and clone no longer deals damage when it explodes, all it does is basically just drop some block for like abilities, if very rarely deals any dmg because people just kill all the tiny boxes with one hit.

It should be like if u kill the wrong shaco you get punished with damage and not some useless boxes that die in 1 hit, pls make so shaco is good without duskblade. atm you play shaco like a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't fed as f*ck. if the enemy runs you run too and wait for your q to come off cd. There is really only one build for shaco and i don't feel like that is a good thing.

#revertshaco

16 Comments

Sir Saltarin3 votes

I really liked how the old shaco was able to one shot people like assasins are suposed to do

Ah assasins tears are sweet, no thanks, he needs a full VGU or nothing.

MasterDClone3 votes

but riot makes awful vgu's that dont retain anything from what the champion was look at galio, aatrox and urgot.

boricCentaur12 votes

Hmmm im going to say rework shaco.

MasterDClone1 votes

the problem with that is that riot will fuck that up for sure lol

GrãñðmãstêrShãçø1 votes

#REVERTSHACO

isaruk211 votes

But no ! Don't rework Shaco, he is currently strong with these big damage, he is a real assassin and even if the former was better, he remains well

MasterDClone1 votes

he is weak as shit

Clone Is Friend1 votes

have you seen his execute dmg on his e? and oh wait? whats that? oh its nothing in the early game.

Flashes1 votes

The reason that Shaco is kept weak in terms of damage is because of his stealth and teleport, and his ult.

Yes he's weak. However, his damage is meant to be weak because otherwise it would just be Rengar with his ult on a 6 second cooldown.

Eedat1 votes

Here's the issue. You cant just undo all the other changes in the game just for one champion. If they undid the rework, they would just be giving him back his insanely oppressive early game, but he wouldn't fall off either. In fact, he would scale even harder than he does now. He would just use the same things available to him now and get back his insane early game. You would just make Shaco broken OP again and they would have to nerf him hard yet another time. Not to mention that his old stealth mechanic is literally removed from the game and replace by a FAR stronger invisibility mechanic. Giving him 3.5 seconds of invisibility at rank 1 Q just isn't an option.

You just cant do it. If they reverted him they would have to hard nerf the living hell out of him which would completely defeat the purpose. You'd just get Shaco as he is now.

Clone Is Friend1 votes

literally only item that would make him broken if he gets #revertshaco is ducks blade. almost no other item has been made better. just restrict him from building it and i would be happy. i just hate when i have 400 dmg but i dont got duskblade and i go in and deal like 12 dmg with my full combo to enemy adc.

Eedat1 votes

Duskblade proc doesn't even do an auto attack worth of damage anymore lmao

MasterDClone1 votes

they have done reverts before, its not that hard. the invis on q would become visible to pinks like before which isn't a game breaking mechanic. boxes stack, and have less hp more damage. e does magical damage. r does more damage, no boxes. his q gives crit instead of damage and his passive reverts. shaco can't scale now what makes you think a revert where his late game was pathetic would suddenly become strong he will be strong ealy game and mid game like he had always been, on top of that enjoyable to play.

Eedat1 votes

It is that hard. His stealth mechanics does not exist anymore. There have also been tons of indirect changes to itemization, runes and masteries, and the jungle that have to be taken into account.

Also, yes he scales extremely hard despite every Shaco player trying to say how weak he is. He is literally the highest winrate jungler in the lategame on op.gg and he's been up near the top for a long time. He's also been almost consistently in the top 5 winrate junglers for YEARS now.

DarwinTheory1 votes

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Shaco really doesn't feel like shaco anymore, he does almost no damage without duskblade and ap shaco is just useless.

I really liked how the old shaco was able to one shot people like assasins are suposed to do but nowadays assasins aren't really good against many champions that have some damage reduction or a lot of movement abilities like ahri or ezreal so if assassins don't get ahead on the early game its really hard to kill a squishy and get away from the enemy team because all damage shaco really has now is his duskblade,

I loved the old shaco's slow on his e and his crit on his q and ap shaco didn't suck at lategame because he used to deal a lot of ap dmg with his e and clone no longer deals damage when it explodes, all it does is basically just drop some block for like abilities, if very rarely deals any dmg because people just kill all the tiny boxes with one hit.

It should be like if u kill the wrong shaco you get punished with damage and not some useless boxes that die in 1 hit, pls make so shaco is good without duskblade. atm you play shaco like a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't fed as f*ck. if the enemy runs you run too and wait for your q to come off cd. There is really only one build for shaco and i don't feel like that is a good thing.

#revertshaco

Don't mind. Don't care.

AP too shaco is pure hell on earth. Your champs bit getting buffed. Crymoar.

Clone Is Friend1 votes

this wasn't about his viability, this was about the fact that he feels like shit to play and best parts of him are gone.

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