Most useless ultimate in game?

packïn shmeat·Jun 9, 2016·10 votes·8,750 views

What do you guys think the most useless ultimate in game is? (Not including Udyr or Nidalee, because these are kinda just extra abilities.) Thing that come to my mind is Urgot but I can see him using it in lane when ally jg is ganking his lane. Then I also thought about Rek sai. Her ultimate is close to useless late game. It provides nothing in late game in a 5v5 fight and even if you have a tunnel behind the enemy to try to kill squishies they probably have destroyed it because they saw it from wards. Hell Urgot can go tank and switch positions with an enemy tank if he is caught out. I would love to hear the rest of the community's opinions. :) ~UPDATE- Corki doesn't count as it is basically an extra ability and not an ult.

166 Comments

stealthfox94Jun 9, 201612 votes

A first time JarvanIV

BestTristMyHausJun 9, 20163 votes

Unless they buffed it when I wasn't paying attention, J4's ult IS pretty craptacular, it SEEMS like anyone and everyone can get out of it without even needing flash.

AutomatisJun 9, 201612 votes

Nunu

A circle ult that COULD do a ton of damage. In reality it usually does less damage than Rammus ' Tremors.

Nunu has to A) get into the enemy team, B) Channel his ult, C) Hope he doesn't get CCed, D) Hope his enemies have 0 mobility, E) Pray they don't have flash.

See: Kennen Galio Fiddlesticks for some actually useful variations.

It ranges from useless to "this is a decent slow" while your allies kill them.

Aatrox is pretty close but at least he can use it to finish people off at decent range.

LankPantsJun 9, 20163 votes

My opinion on Nunu is that because of his kit his ult actually isn't that bad. His ult would be pretty garbage on the majority of champions, but since his teamfight presence extends approximately as far as 'give ADC attack speed' without it it's just a good enough ability to use in a fight. It debuffs the enemy team quite effectively in an AOE, which is OK for Nunu because he already gives his carry so much gold in AS, meaning stripping the enemy team of MS and AS is quite good.

I actually think Absolute Zero is marginally stronger than The Box. They're both similar abilities in their end goal (clog a chock of cut the enemy team) but I think Nunu's is stronger due to the threat it presents and AS debuff. Nunu's ult is good because it forces the enemy team to waste CC on a champ who is basically worthless once he's hit his W anyway.

Demon King MaouJun 9, 20165 votes

Depending on the user Pantheon his ult could either be the most deadly or the most useless ( Then again it makes a for a great escape tool and last hitting tool )

FioraWillCarryJun 9, 20162 votes

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Depending on the user his ult could either be the most deadly or the most useless ( Then again it makes a for a great escape tool and last hitting tool )

His ult is far from the most useless. In fact, its one of the most tilt inducing when you have to play against it. It can quickly turn a favorable skirmish into a disaster for your team.

GrivhFeb 20, 20181 votes

Panth's ult is one of the best in the game, like a free tp that deals damage and slow

FantasySniperJun 9, 20165 votes

Evelynn % Current health that doesn't have a minimum... Kindred It can quite literally turn fights in the enemy's favor. Poppy Use it as a CC that makes the enemy untargetable or risk missing the highly telegraphed skillshot that sends them flying. Shyvana It misses half the time (it's bugged), and would otherwise be unremarkable if it weren't for the transformation. Urgot CC yourself in the middle of fight without any damage output or resistance.

If I had to choose I would say that Evelynn and Shyvana have the worst ultimates. Evelynn's is bad in straight up power and Shyvana's just makes her into a melee Ryze... without any CC.

M0RDEKA1SERJun 9, 20164 votes

Singed seriously, no one's mentioned this guy yet?

RogueWillJun 9, 201614 votes

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seriously, no one's mentioned this guy yet?

That's one of teh best ults out there. Is a bunch of free stats. Did I mention you get 80 armor and MR? that's right almost 3k godl of free stats

M0RDEKA1SERJun 9, 20163 votes

Graves gets more almost double that and some mobility to boot... On a non-ultimate...

RogueWillJun 9, 20164 votes

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Graves gets more almost double that and some mobility to boot... On a non-ultimate...

I think he gets 30 flat at most and then he has to stack it with more quickdraws so is actually rather un-viable unless you are running a lot of AS on him as the base won't be enough to stack the passive.

That's the defensive stats...Singed also gets 80 AP, 80 MS and 16 Mana and HP regen which is for 25 seconds no matter if you aa or not. i think I rather the extra MS over a short dash any day of the weeek

DorkunedAurasJun 9, 20164 votes

Rek'Sai has a freaking fantastic ult, DO NOT INSULT MY BAE!

AsheGetsGankedJun 9, 20164 votes

HOW HAS NOBODY SAID CAITLYN!?!?!? it's pretty useless unless you can get a straggler or finish off in lane, but honestly it's not very useful overall. fits her theme though perfectly

GrivhFeb 20, 20181 votes

her ult is useful in early and mid game against people who don't know what they're doing, because you can use it to finish people running away, but it cant be used in the middle of a fight cause you'll get cc'd out of it, and in late game honestly her AA is straight up more powerful, but it can be useful still

Auto AttacksJun 9, 20162 votes

Irelia Jax KogMaw all have really under whelming ults compared to the rest of their kit. Honorable mention would go to Nunu because it isnt exactly useless but, its pretty close if he doesnt get full charge, which he usually will not.

Votable JesterJun 9, 20162 votes

Jax's ultimate is part of what makes it so hard to kill him though. Irelia's isn't particularly strong in and of itself, but it does set up a bunch of Q dashes as well as some healing. Kog'maw's gives decent vision and allows him to be of help during sieges. Nunu's ult at least soaks up a hard cc, but yeah that one is pretty bad most of the time.

67chromeJun 9, 20162 votes

Most useless ultimate in game?

Aatrox probably has the weakest ultimate in the game if you exclude Udyr.

Pretty much every ultimate is good, those that appear weak at first glance like those of tend to carry multiple effects that make their ultimate much stronger looking at all the pieces they offer. The active of Kha'Zix's ultimate is garbage, but his ultimate also upgrades his QWE or R into a much better skill.

Aatrox is just odd in that his passive is amazingly strong rather than lackluster, and his ultimate is lackluster instead of a amazingly strong. It's also hard to imagine any champion being improved from gaining Aatrox's ultimate over their existing ultimate. 60% AS and 50 range for 12 seconds is much more QWE in terms of power, even with the 200/300/400 damage melee-range AoE nuke. As an AD champion quite capable of reaching 400 damage auto-attacks, the AP scaling on Massacre also makes the skill pretty "eh", especially with it's extremely lengthy CD relative to the skill's overall power.

EonifyzJun 9, 20165 votes

As a KLha main his ult is not useless at all. you can use it to get some more passive aa's in if you are tryna kill a more beffy opponent the invis can make it easier to e on to the adc a burst them b4 they notice and stuff like that

Bears Dont CareJun 9, 20162 votes

No one is mentioning Evelynn ? Only damaging ult in the game that CAN'T kill. Non-scaling shield that is only competitive with JarvanIV unless it hits more than 2 champs at a time. It's on an assassin designed to duel! Awful ability.

SlitterAug 10, 20191 votes

When used correctly evelynn’s ultimate is one of the strongest ults in the game

Death by GlamourJun 9, 20162 votes

A really hard question to answer

My 2cents nunus

MrBuffingtonJun 9, 20162 votes

~~He's the only champion I can think of where you actually don't put points in your ult until you have no other choice~~

Derp, they changed that

stealthfox94Jun 9, 20163 votes

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He's the only champion I can think of where you actually don't put points in your ult until you have no other choice

Transform champs don't count.

MrBuffingtonJun 9, 20163 votes

If that's the case I'd probably go with Aatrox or Volibear , they either seem pretty situational (extra AA range or weird chain effect) or just generic (some damage buff).

DorkunedAurasJun 9, 20165 votes

you do realize you cannot put points into his ult, and his abilities have 6 levels, right?

L Psy KongrooJun 9, 20162 votes

I've always felt Renekton 's ult is subpar, especially when compared to Nasus's. The damage is weak, and the HP gain is lower than what Nasus gets (I think).

CasterGilgameshJun 9, 20162 votes

Evelynn Irelia Khazix TahmKench compared to other champions these are the worst ults IMO

EcchiOtakuTMJun 9, 20164 votes

Irelia's ulti is free sheen procs, kha's is hyper damage buff, tahm is bonus damage on Q, W AA's and has a semi-global duo TP tied in.

I never cared for eve since stun eve's removal but it is a great ulti it's just a shame an assassin has it instead of a tank huge engage damage since it's current hp and a powerful shield.

CeexSettJun 9, 20163 votes

Free Sheen procs isn't what defines a ultimate ability...

Karthus's Q, Evelynn's Q, Ezreal's Q are all "free Sheen procs" and aren't ults.

IMO the guy is kinda of right, Evelynn and Irelia ults are the worst.

LankPantsJun 9, 20162 votes

Free Sheen procs isn't what defines a ultimate ability...

Karthus's Q, Evelynn's Q, Ezreal's Q are all "free Sheen procs" and aren't ults.

Meanwhile Corki ult is an ability...

EcchiOtakuTMJun 10, 20161 votes

Yea but add irelia's "free sheen proc" with it also healing her and the rest of her base kit it is a pretty awesome ulti.

CeexSettJun 10, 20161 votes

Just because her kit is good doesn't make a pitiful ult good in comparison, we were talking strictly ultimates here.

EcchiOtakuTMJun 10, 20161 votes

But I said why her ulti was great, free heals, bonus sheen procs what I didn't mention was it's great damage and low CD. It's mind boggling why people think irelia's ulti is bad tbh.

SiyothJul 21, 20171 votes

It can also set up q's on minions to chase.

SlitterAug 10, 20191 votes

Last Caress is broken but I do agree on irelia

SeekerofSilenceJun 9, 20162 votes

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the Tahm ult isn't global?

MrryZJun 9, 20163 votes

It isn't, the range is hardly even worth it at the 1st and 2nd rank tbh.

ZoeeeeJun 9, 20162 votes

Mundo's ult feels useless when the other team has 3 ignites. Or if you play vs anyone with an execute.

doiminat0r3600Jun 9, 20162 votes

Yorick You get to come back to life, only for a few seconds. Can either make or break the fight if you ult the ADC or not.

alfavhunterJun 9, 20162 votes

Most unless ult would be depending on team comp and enemy team comp

For example some games Morgana ult is godly, others the entire enemy team can with dash out of it or has the means to force her away, or just pop her

DenevielJun 12, 20162 votes

Irelia Just a free sustain skill. Olaf good skill but lackluster atm Singed read above Xerath T_T

SylverblitzJun 9, 20161 votes

For a few different reasons I think these are pretty underwhelming.

Mordekaiser Unless it kills someone it feels like a longer ignite. Warwick It stops the target moving but it also leaves him just as vulnerable albeit with the ability to stop it. Malzahar As with above it leaves him vulnerable and immobile plus the rework took a lot of power from it.

sneezing slugJun 9, 201611 votes

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For a few different reasons I think these are pretty underwhelming.

Unless it kills someone it feels like a longer ignite. It stops the target moving but it also leaves him just as vulnerable albeit with the ability to stop it. As with above it leaves him vulnerable and immobile plus the rework took a lot of power from it.

It sounds to me like you just don't know how to use those champions correctly then.

RogueWillJun 9, 20161 votes

Taliyah Knocked out of her ult by any damage. and wall decays pretty fast for an ultimate

MrBuffingtonJun 9, 201612 votes

Really? The utility of her ult is absurd

RogueWillJun 9, 20163 votes

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Really? The utility of her ult is absurd

In all honestly the utility is not much better than Anivia wall. The widths are similar so pretty much anyone with a dash can go though, (maybe vayne woudl be the exception) and sure is longer than aivia wall but there is only so many places where you can use it to full extent than 90% of the time an anivia wall would be just as effective. You can still AA though it and is not as useful to roam since it has a global warning.

MrBuffingtonJun 9, 20165 votes

Anivia wall is really powerful though, and Anivia wall doesn't let you roam. Most other global/semi-global repositioning ults do basically the same thing; provide some utility in addition to the reposition (TF gives global vision, TK lets you take another person, Panth's does a lot of damage, Nocturne has vision denial, Shen gives a massive shield, Sion's ult is arguably a semi-global and it does a lot of damage and CC). All those ults have some sort of global warning. Taliyah's ult might not be the most powerful in the game, but it's far from the most useless.

chipndip1Jun 9, 20161 votes

I'm going for Nunu.

A tank with no stun has an ult that requires everyone to stand still while he doesn't move so he can charge it. Kinda lousy.

Only Play DariusJun 9, 20162 votes

It's a pretty strong slow and lowers everyone's attack speed, forces people to walk out and/or waste a hard CC on him. Nunu is a nuisance that wins by making you as useless as he is.