In the spirit of the whole "Ranged vs Melee" discussion

Glory ln Death·Nov 15, 2016·8 votes·376 views

Make all ranged auto attacks interceptable. Basically, they would be targeted "skillshots" like Lulu's autos from Pix.

The attacks target you, but if a unit is between you and the attacker (allies, allied minions, neutral monsters, maybe structures) that unit gets hit instead.

It wouldn't be as easy for ranged champs to bully melee out of lane, but they would still have the advantage anytime the melee left their minions to try to jump on the ranged. It would also require more careful positioning for the ranged champs, especially in team fights.

Certain champions could be given abilities that "ghost" their autos for a short time, or certain items could have passives or actives that allow non-interceptable autos.

Might come off as overkill, but it's an interesting idea.

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Critmaster GarenNov 15, 20166 votes

so basically making ranged auto attacks in general like graves autos.

the reason i like this is, because it allows tanks to make themselves relevant by actually being able to protect allies by body blocking shots of an adc for their allies.

the idea to gate piecering auto attacks by items is also really nice to give counterplay to ranged auto attacks very early on in lane by positioning behind minions.

it could fix one of the issues marksmen have.

Glory ln DeathNov 15, 20164 votes

It would actually give more meaning to the term "front line".

And, it would make melee carries in bot lane more feasible and even make early game farming more interesting - supports can body block their minions to deny farm, laners have to position correctly to get last hits, you can play mind games with your positioning to set up a gank, etc.

GULAG 4 UNov 15, 20162 votes

Eh it would make bot lane so ridiculously hard to play on the other hand.

Critmaster GarenNov 15, 20162 votes

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Eh it would make bot lane so ridiculously hard to play on the other hand.

welcome to the lives of pretty much everyone else. of course it makes them more difficult and reliant on positioning. thats the point.

melee champions have to deal with minion block aswell.

GULAG 4 UNov 16, 20161 votes

Sorry, but making everybody's lives cancer doesn't solve cancer.

Just buff doran's shield and tone down creepblock. auto attack blocks just isn't a good idea.

Critmaster GarenNov 16, 20161 votes

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Sorry, but making everybody's lives cancer doesn't solve cancer.

Just buff doran's shield and tone down creepblock. auto attack blocks just isn't a good idea.

i dont think a dorans shield buff will change anything. if it did, then it would have been enough to balance the game in the past,

dota has turnspeeds to balance melee vs. range in their game. auto attack blocks could be a mechanic that can balance it for league.

it would be a gigantic change to the game. probably the largest one yet. that doesnt mean its not worth exploring the option.

Best princess EUNov 15, 20161 votes

Graves

BakedLotionNov 15, 20161 votes

Then bot lane would be a farm fest

Critmaster GarenNov 15, 20163 votes

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Then bot lane would be a farm fest

as if it isnt already. marksmen would still have poke on their abilities. they just wouldnt have perfectly reliable poke.

BakedLotionNov 15, 20161 votes

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as if it isnt already. marksmen would still have poke on their abilities. they just wouldnt have perfectly reliable poke.

This idea is terrible on so many levels. At best, I can only see it working if minions don't intercept autos and only champions do Champions like vayne/kalista/twitch would be completely useless in lane because they don't have any reliable or even decent poke on abilities.

Only butthurt top lane melee mains would agree with something like this even though it would ruin gameplay. Come up with a less ridiculous suggestion. This change is suggested because of your anger towards gnar/quinn/jayce. What you don't realize is that it'll fuck up mages and adcs too. And bot lane has actually moved away from farm fest. It's a clown fiesta every single game. Pretty sure botlane dies a lot now

Glory ln DeathNov 15, 20163 votes

And when are champs like Vayne and Twitch supposed to shine? Late game! They aren't supposed to be amazing in the laning phase.

That is also why I suggested some champions have effects on their abilities that allow them to hit their target even with minions or other champions in between. Things like Jhin's fourth bullet, Caitlyn's Headshot, when Vayne tumbles, Lucian's passive, etc.

Let's also not forget that all three champions you mentioned are excellent at kiting and have mobility which can let them quickly reposition themselves to avoid minion block (Twitch through his stealth surprise attacks).

The idea isn't to cripple ranged champions, but to give them windows of power and give their opponents a way to outplay them other than just staying out of their range, especially early game. Right now, ranged champions are almost always at an advantage against melee - this change would mean ranged have the advantage only in certain situations.

And to your "butthurt top laner" comment, I'm actually a support main.