Riot, for future reference, handing players icons is not proper compensation

Atuko·9/19/2017, 12:55:00 AM·95 votes·2,849 views

Let's be honest, getting an icon for compensation feels horrible. Icons are already an over-saturated market, more icons are not in hot demand as we already have plenty of them that we like.

Nobody wants to be "compensated" with an icon that they aren't even going to actually use and is just going to sit in their inventory and gather dust where no one else is going to be able to see the rewards of their hard work

It didn't feel good when you compensated Dominion people with an icon, and it didn't feel good when you compensated people for the Honor system with icons

If you're going to compensate players, please compensate them with something that they actually want and are going to want to actually use for their hard work

41 Comments

S92nB9/19/2017, 1:22:50 AM26 votes

dw, we gonna get emotes instead now so everything is fine /sarcasm

Duchess Katarina9/19/2017, 3:35:21 PM8 votes

I think the reasoning why they give out icons is that players want to show off that they were a part of something. Icons have the most visibility, your icon gets viewed on the boards, your friends list, in loading screen and in game. Thus you can proudly say yes I was a part of that. It can even be a talking point in some games, "where'd you get that icon?" "oh I got it because I played Dominion" or "I owned a legacy skin before legacy skins were cool".

With other forms of compensation like skins or RP or IP, etc. that doesn't really define the fact that you did a thing. And I mean after a while, you might forget that you owned the skin or how you got it (unless its a champ you play frequently). Like last year they gave away a mystery gift for those who were sportsman-like and I got Masquerade Evelynn and I was okay with it (I don't really play jungle but if I do, I sometimes play Eve). But it doesn't really show off that I was a sportsman-like player. I mean it's great, I know how I got the skin but other people don't and to them it's just a skin that you might have bought. Unless in every game you announce like a jackass "oh hey riot gave me this skin!!" Great, no one cares.

And that's what this is all about, you want other people to know that you did things in the game. And I get it, icons are getting a little stale, you can only have 1 on at a time and so you have to choose what you want to display. But there's not much else to display things on. You can get a badge for your profile, but do people really look at profiles? You can get a loading screen flair but there's already so much happening on there already, and some people will complain "oh everyone just tabs out, so it's useless." I know they're coming out with some sort of sticker album, but there's still not much incentive to go check out other player's albums.

I think as of right now, icons are really the only good option to display something about yourself that reaches a mass amount of people.

In b4 I get downvoted tho.

Iskierka9/19/2017, 8:31:21 AM4 votes

I understand that riot cant throw skins in our faces at any given time but I personally dont really care for anything but skins. Chromas could maybe work for some.

MagicalDemons9/19/2017, 7:45:37 PM3 votes

I like collecting icons tbh

Critmaster Garen9/19/2017, 7:58:16 PM3 votes

i think some of those icons should be trophies that are permanently displayed somewhere on your profile.

the client might really need an achievement tab in grid form (like your champion collection) in which you just have these types of icons displayed with a mouseover tooltip what they represent.

they could still be unlocked as summoner icons, but when someone looks into your profile, hed see that you got the full list of all 5 honor icons, the ranks from your previous seasons, missions you have completed etc.

FilDaFunk9/19/2017, 10:31:19 PM3 votes

"Reward" would be much more fitting than "compensate" in your article. "Compensate" will be appropriate when talking about taking away all our runes and giving us something in exchange.

I do agree, though. I have some icons I like that not many people have, more icons mean nothing to me.

NewGuy1019/20/2017, 1:06:41 AM3 votes

Yeah, when I started, I liked icons because I could show off what I accomplished (like this one I got when I first started playing :-). Then as I've played for 2 years, I've realized that "Oh, now I have too many icons, and the one I currently use has lost its charm." For that reason, I know why they keep releasing icons, its a steady and reliable source of income. But I have enough icons at this point to just rotate them out when I get tired of looking at them.

Solidair39/19/2017, 10:49:27 AM3 votes

Agree.

I cycle through maybe four icons, the rest sit unused forever.

JohnnyFallDown9/19/2017, 1:10:02 PM2 votes

I just think that if you are being rewarded you should have the choice of picking what you receive. Even if its just from a couple of options. A random gift of any kind that I blindly get is usually Meh. Give me options.

Rito Staff9/20/2017, 11:36:24 AM2 votes

I like icons... I just think they should be limited edition and tied to some real fuckin struggle to get. Like the Shurima one \o/

(5 premade mission icon reward is not what I would consider hard)

otherwise they're pretty worthless

DariusDemiurge9/20/2017, 11:49:41 AM2 votes

Icons are typically shit too.

Example, we didn't get angel riven from her vs yasuo event cause edgelord yasuo won which was pretty nice looking. We don't have good champion icons yet. (Of course as soon as I get a good Morgana/Kayle one gentleman poro is as good as dead no matter how cute and dapper he is.) Thier placement is bad, thier size of display is mediocre.

Icons are just overall pathetic.

Edit, maybe they wouldn't be so terrible if we could customize our profile with a few like a teen girl's MySpace page with a few at a time. :3

Sire Hippington9/19/2017, 11:47:47 PM2 votes

Or give us atleast more options to show different icons. I have all the honor icons, yet i will never show anything than the dominion one(never foget, never forgive, removeing it was the worst mistake riot ever made, and given the current state of the game that means quite alot)

Dr Poro9/19/2017, 11:30:36 PM2 votes

They said that they're working on making icons more enticing. I'm pretty curious what they're going to come up with and whether it'll work.

2Behold9/20/2017, 2:01:35 PM1 votes

I'm probably going to get downvoted for this but I don't get why this community feels so entitled. Like Riot has already implemented a system that gives you a ton of free shit for just playing. Why does everyone on these boards feel like Riot should give them 12 legacy skins and 2 free champions for playing the game? Your reward is the video game, I mean I suppose it isnt unreasonable to think maybe someone started playing with the hopes of getting free things but I know I started playing because it looked fun and getting anything on top of the game feels great, regardless of the reward.

OnanThaMan9/19/2017, 12:32:24 PM1 votes

Yea, the only icons I'd care for are ones you could earn through champ mastery. And even then they better be higher quality than the other icons.

OP Garen Support9/19/2017, 1:14:45 PM1 votes

Icons feel like a bad type of achievements only visible for yourself. If we gonna get them for achieving things at least make it visible for everyone to see.

Velzard of Koz9/19/2017, 1:20:49 PM1 votes

Cactopus already said they would lose revenue If they gave away more BE because they count on getting money from champion purchases. So they have already problem to give away a champion. What other reward would they give for free so that they don't act like they would go bancrupt?

But don't worry, they have something special next time... An Emote... :^)

Kloqdq9/19/2017, 1:53:01 PM1 votes

Stamp collection book on profile hype

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ9/19/2017, 2:30:10 PM1 votes

I love birbs so I sure as hell won't change my current icon unless there's a better birb one. Thus, icons are useless to me.

the weeaboo9/19/2017, 2:52:44 PM1 votes

I think if they attach the custom Mastery Emotes to certain Icons it would be worth it. I really like my Star Guardian emote. I'm really sad I won't get to keep it.

SanKakU9/19/2017, 3:13:11 PM1 votes

I like my icon, it shows I value all other 9 players in the match, not just myself.

Leetri9/19/2017, 3:44:27 PM1 votes

What else would they compensate with? Like legitimately, come with suggestions.

Some people sit on thousands of IP they can't use, they wouldn't be happy if the compensation was just an IP boost. RP or skins? That cuts into their revenue too much. If we're talking about the honour rewards for example, let's say that 1/10 people were so toxic they didn't get the basic reward. That means that there's still around 90 million accounts they have to compensate. If they gave us even 1 dollar worth of RP (130 RP) they'd be cashing out 90 million dollars for a reward that's mostly useless to us, because 130 RP buys you nearly nothing. If they went with skins people would complain they didn't get that particular skin for that particular champion they wanted. Also it would be cheap skins like Nightmare Cho'Gath or Assassin Master Yi.

The only thing I can reasonably see working would be one of those new hextech capsules along with the icon so you still have something tied to that specific happening.

Critmaster Garen9/19/2017, 7:56:27 PM1 votes

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Let's be honest, getting an icon for compensation feels horrible. Icons are already an over-saturated market, more icons are not in hot demand as we already have plenty of them that we like.

Nobody wants to be "compensated" with an icon that they aren't even going to actually use and is just going to sit in their inventory and gather dust where no one else is going to be able to see the rewards of their hard work

It didn't feel good when you compensated Dominion people with an icon, and it didn't feel good when you compensated people for the Honor system with icons

If you're going to compensate players, please compensate them with something that they actually want and are going to want to actually use for their hard work

i like the honorable opponent item, and i see a decent amount of people who chose the honor icons.

but it would have been nice if there was one icon that youd only get if you also got every single honor icon. that would have been rare enough to equip and show off.

generally speaking though, youre right. since you can only show one icon at a time there isnt much point in flooding people with icons as rewards.

Teddy6269/19/2017, 10:22:44 PM1 votes

lol wait people got icons for dominion? I had no idea, never see them...probably just more reason to agree with op.

DRAGOON Burst9/20/2017, 12:57:17 AM1 votes

"Compensation" in icons is just a terrible thing to do because people won't know of your achievements because you chose not to display that specific icon. I would prefer a ribbon or mark that will show on my profile that I achieved this or that over an icon that will never be used. I bought all the champs for the current roster and I get an icon? Nobody will know because I most likely wouldn't equip it.

For those who received honor icons, you guys should have received some sort of old style honor ribbon on your profile.

Even better. You could have a page in your profile for such achievements that can be viewed by others.