"We don't need tanks we got burst"

Its Mr Bustyoass·Jan 8, 2018·31 votes·1,836 views

League 2018

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Brain Errör 404Jan 8, 201821 votes

You got it wrong.

"We don't need assassins. We got Tanks."

AhristocatsJan 8, 20182 votes

https://youtu.be/enjz4fDG3yo?t=171

we got gangplank :^)

RenownedWheat42Jan 8, 201816 votes

Never seen this said unironically

ChaddyFantomeJan 8, 20186 votes

Every game right now has everyone woth around 10 deaths before thr game ends lol

Sun Wu RyuumokuJan 8, 20182 votes

i think its more related to players playing poorly... i mean when ur bot is in 0/12 in less 15 the problem isn't damages.

CunkyJan 8, 20184 votes

Whats the difference

LordGeovanniJan 8, 20184 votes

All the Adc and mage mains on this game try to convince me that tanks are the op class when i main fighters and get 1 shot by adcs and mages (and assassins) not tanks.

Ariel the CruelJan 9, 20182 votes

I main fighters and get 1 shot by adcs and mages (and assassins) not tanks.

That's because, as a fighter, you're probably building at least 1 tank item. Which should about cancel out the tank's 1 damage item. XD

LordGeovanniJan 11, 20181 votes

1 tanks dont even build one damage item because tanks (used to have okay ap scaling so that they had a reason to change their build from full tank ) have horrible ap scaling so they have no reason to build damage. the tanks that do are called fighters item 3748 and fighters have to buy into 3 (4 if you count boots) tank items just to survive one mage combo with about 20% hp or getting attacked by an adc for 2 seconds. While their other 2 items have most of their power into health to help them tank and survive and all the tank items and damage items have the same amount of hp or the damage items have more which shows how badly they want tank items to be bad. Fighters dont get to build damage items and go damage builds any more the most bonus ad fighters get to have is 80 from their item 3748 into item 3071 into tank build. when i say fighters, these are the exceptions because they are pretty much assassins anyway in build style balance and play style Fiora Yasuo Riven

Ariel the CruelJan 11, 20181 votes

tanks don't even build one damage item because tanks. . . have no reason to build damage. ... . . . ... and all the tank items and damage items have the same amount of hp or the damage items have more which shows how badly they want tank items to be bad.

LordGeovanniJan 11, 20181 votes

Dont give me that bs if you can do more damage and still be effective you will do it except adcs cry when every tanks sacrifice durability for damage and get both nerfed for tanks and even worse for fighters as a by product

Ariel the CruelJan 12, 20181 votes

I was merely pointing out the contradiction in your own post.

Tanks have no reason to build damage items.
Damage items have as much as or more health than tank items. (Proving how Riot wants tank items to be bad.) Therefore, tanks have a reason to build damage items.

It was a pure quote. No more, no less. I added nothing to the discussion.

LordGeovanniJan 12, 20181 votes

Except that every tank rework hard nerfed all the ap ratios on tank champions so even if you want to build damage items 40% - 20% ap scaling is not worth building ap

Ariel the CruelJan 12, 20181 votes

As amusing as it is, you seem to be arguing both sides. Can you start by clarifying exactly where you stand here?

Or is this just thinking aloud?

LordGeovanniJan 12, 20181 votes

I said that IN THE PAST tanks used to trade out their durability for damage there was no such thing as a 6 denfesive item tank because tanks after 4 defensive items build damage in most cases 1 damage item the least for a 5 defensive item tank that had warmogs armor. IN THE PRESENT tanks have no reason to do so because their ap ratios are so low to couple with their low range long cooldown spells and they still die quickly as a 6 defensive item tank because riot balanced tanks items so that tanks like Malphite with his shield and w passive versus a full ad team can only survive 5 seconds and Poppy can only survive 5 second with her w passive and shield so tanks with no defensive augment stat cant even survive that long Hecarim Nautilus on top of having no damage so they arent even fun to play because all the damaged front loaded on adc crits and mage spells.

AetherArisingJan 9, 20183 votes

But what if.... bear with me for a moment

TANKS WERE THE BURST?

-ritotogames 2k18

deadlychuckJan 9, 20183 votes

League 2015-2018*

and that's not even including if you just say "we don't need defense, we have damage", because that's pretty much been the case since like 2012 [slayer-jinx-unamused]

ExecutionerJan 8, 20181 votes

Yeah no.

Its Mr BustyoassJan 8, 20181 votes

haha, sorry for the late reply fellas (or ladies) this was an actual thing a fizz player said to me in-game this morning when I (vayne) adc suggested in lobby that our Kayn should play Darken so we could win (he went shadow assassin of course). He was not saying it ironically. Like seriously what's with people not drafting proper teams anymore? Seems like every other game is all assassins or 4 AP champs on the same team, or 3 people playing adc (im in a game right now with frickin jayce mid, twitch jg, and jhin adc)

LordGeovanniJan 8, 20182 votes

Tanks are not fun to play you have no damage you dont survive long your only use is to disrupt damage from the enemy so that your team out puts damage while they are disrupted. While still important they are not strong at their main role (tanking damage) but are short ranged have long cooldowns and dont get to have damage scaling all just for having cc but every mage and adc and assassin gets to have cc and keep their damage and have more range and mobility. while tank cc aka hard cc more powerful versus adcs and mages than adc cc is versus adcs and mages. adcs mage and assassin soft cc roots and slows are just as effective as hard cc if not far more effective when they get to have more damage and better up time and stronger values versus melee champions. and tanks Champions who are the largest champions in the game and most likely to be taller than the walls in the rift are being phased out of being able to dash over walls but marksmen and mages can keep it. If anything they need to make it so nobody has it or stop shitting on tanks

Its Mr BustyoassJan 9, 20181 votes

First off I find tanks Extremely fun. Secondly I'm not sure what your XP with this game or other mobas is but generally speaking, tanks have high base damage abilities with moderate to low scaling which they use to abuse carries up until late late game because even with the "no scaling" they do enough damage to burn right through an ADC. For example we'll just use Ashe Vs Malphite: Ashe lvl 18 has 1870 HP. Lvl 18 Malphite has 2104 HP. Seismic shard max lvl does base 270 damage, Ground slam does 200 base damage, unstoppable force does 400 base damage (with a 1:1 AP ratio) that's 870 damage or 46 percent of Ashe's Health bar before we even talk about scaling or the fact that Malphite probably has 3 armor and HP items cutting Ashe's damage by more than half while Ashe does not enjoy the same luxury of being able to build multiple defensive items and still be effective at her role. If you really wanna be a cheeky malphite and 1 shot the adc you can go sorcerer's and a ROA as long as you don't need the magic resist from merc's you can make up the tenacity with other items/pots/talents. In fact, I was sorted into bronze this season and finally decided to climb my way out so I can play with my Gold III who's enlisted and the only way I was able to do it was by just picking a tank every game and actually doing tank stuff while the other teams usually don't have tanks.

LordGeovanniJan 11, 20181 votes

I like how you ignore that ashe ignoring at least 37% of that damage with 40mr and adcs now have scaling mr. im to lazy to get the exact number and Malphite is an outlier tank who still has good ap scaling unlike the reset of the tanks and he also only has one hard cc and can be ingnored for other targets when his ult is down. You are also chosing one of the lowest dps carries ignoreing magic resist on ranged carries and lifesteal kiting and assuming that an adc that does most of their work from behind other champions protection is 1v1ing a tank. you are removing more than half of the adcs strengths (the fact that they are usually peeled for and buffed up) and putting maplhite in the situation where he should be strongest and he still isnt likely to win that fight.

Slice n Dice emJan 9, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jesse Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oNJ6FVEE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-01-08T22:45:34.373+0000)

haha, sorry for the late reply fellas (or ladies) this was an actual thing a fizz player said to me in-game this morning when I (vayne) adc suggested in lobby that our Kayn should play Darken so we could win (he went shadow assassin of course). He was not saying it ironically. Like seriously what's with people not drafting proper teams anymore? Seems like every other game is all assassins or 4 AP champs on the same team, or 3 people playing adc (im in a game right now with frickin jayce mid, twitch jg, and jhin adc)

downvoted for playing vayne

Lord of MathJan 11, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jesse Jackson,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oNJ6FVEE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-01-08T22:45:34.373+0000)

haha, sorry for the late reply fellas (or ladies) this was an actual thing a fizz player said to me in-game this morning when I (vayne) adc suggested in lobby that our Kayn should play Darken so we could win (he went shadow assassin of course). He was not saying it ironically. Like seriously what's with people not drafting proper teams anymore? Seems like every other game is all assassins or 4 AP champs on the same team, or 3 people playing adc (im in a game right now with frickin jayce mid, twitch jg, and jhin adc)

That is why you pick Mordekaiser and outdamage them and outtank them.