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faker's opinion on zed

Kenpãchi ··7 votes·2,998 views

so the best midlaner in the history of this game says many times in this vid : zed Zed is a crap champion , but many of our lck pros over here will disagree with him saying zed is op omg nurf pls rito xD. but seriously though riot its time to address this champion and fix him , he has been bad for 1 goddamn year

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BestPudgeNA4 votes

Didn't make worlds Nobody cares what this washed up player from a washed up region says [slayer-jinx-wink]

G0blinSlay3r3 votes

zed is not the op, and if you got good eyes he is a dead man.

only advantage zed has is catching you off guard.

Noor Sakata3 votes

So now Faker is a prophet ? now if he said is Weak then that's it ? The the difference of point of View of Faker and Zed mains is huge The reason why Faker Said Zed is weak , he meant it in his Elo where in mid lane mages are kicked out of the lane and the mid laners there are Aatrox Irelia Urgot Even Chogath Kled were played there in mid lane , and Yes , Zed is weak against bruisers BUT

When Stylish and Zed mains say Zed is weak , they mean he is weak against mages who just buy item 3191 and complain how Broken Zhonia That's where we call Zed mains as Delusional , when it comes to doing to Role , killing the enemy adc or mage , no , Zed is strong and can do it really well

Now you can understand the difference ?

FéliXXX2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oHQrjKm4,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-22T14:30:25.705+0000)

So now Faker is a prophet ? now if he said is Weak then that's it ? The the difference of point of View of Faker and Zed mains is huge The reason why Faker Said Zed is weak , he meant it in his Elo where in mid lane mages are kicked out of the lane and the mid laners there are Aatrox Irelia Urgot Even Chogath Kled were played there in mid lane , and Yes , Zed is weak against bruisers BUT

When Stylish and Zed mains say Zed is weak , they mean he is weak against mages who just buy item 3191 and complain how Broken Zhonia That's where we call Zed mains as Delusional , when it comes to doing to Role , killing the enemy adc or mage , no , Zed is strong and can do it really well

Now you can understand the difference ?

YIKES this guys always makes me laugh

Autumn Grace1 votes

... you do have to realise how garbage your anti ad items is to our anti ap item. as zed is a item dependent champion, buying maw is like the literal bane of our existence. On your side, you have a decent amount of base dmg as you all need to manage your mana, so most mages are balanced to have a higher base dmg for the early levels when they are focused on getting their items and sustaining their mana.

then there's assassins, who get an item that honestly has rather bad defensive capabilities while having almost no perks in terms of dmg which the assassins sorely need. how is that fair.

wolf jade2 votes

w h o c a r e s

SnugglePuggle942 votes

You are talking about Faker here.....he can play any champ and make them look good regardless of their winrate and stats. One person's view does not mean Riot needs to buff him.

Because in the rest of the elos, he's strong as hell and doesn't need anything.

DaTrout774 votes

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You are talking about Faker here.....he can play any champ and make them look good regardless of their winrate and stats. One person's view does not mean Riot needs to buff him.

Because in the rest of the elos, he's strong as hell and doesn't need anything.

The problem is that zed himself isnt that strong. The only thing that makes him useable right now is his mobility, just about all of his dmg is brought by his items (which makes him a little brain dead to play since there isnt as much importance on landing skill shots) just about any mobile ad champ is just as strong as zed currently. If you compare zed to any other ad assassin then he is fairly weak or atleast has alot more counterplay. The only reason zed is played as much as he is, is because he is a fan favorite and he is still useable.

Plenty of high elo players feel the same as faker. LLstylish Says this stuff all the time (though you might say he is biased since he is a zed main) I dont think they should simply buff him because his dmg isnt exactly the main issue, its his kit. He tends to have alot of counterplay (or atleast he used to before duskblade)

FéliXXX1 votes

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The problem is that zed himself isnt that strong. The only thing that makes him useable right now is his mobility, just about all of his dmg is brought by his items (which makes him a little brain dead to play since there isnt as much importance on landing skill shots) just about any mobile ad champ is just as strong as zed currently. If you compare zed to any other ad assassin then he is fairly weak or atleast has alot more counterplay. The only reason zed is played as much as he is, is because he is a fan favorite and he is still useable.

Plenty of high elo players feel the same as faker. LLstylish Says this stuff all the time (though you might say he is biased since he is a zed main) I dont think they should simply buff him because his dmg isnt exactly the main issue, its his kit. He tends to have alot of counterplay (or atleast he used to before duskblade)

he doesnt have base dmg at all so yeah he depends on his items what DOESNT make him braindead at all since lethality sucks its been 1 year since zed is crap they didnt fix it in s8 and they are making him even worse in s9 hes dmg is the issue ofc it is zed is suposed to win lane/midgame but he is not a champ att all if he doesnt get 4 items hes good cos his movility???? he cant get prio in lane so hes movility/roam doesnt matter at all and stop complaining about he doesnt need to land qs cos oh lord he does need it since his e does 0 dmg and his auto got gutted low as lo ad and plsthe dusckblade thing again? this item is SO bad it gives low ad low lethality and the proc does A LOT less dmg than items like gunblade...

DaTrout771 votes

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he doesnt have base dmg at all so yeah he depends on his items what DOESNT make him braindead at all since lethality sucks its been 1 year since zed is crap they didnt fix it in s8 and they are making him even worse in s9 hes dmg is the issue ofc it is zed is suposed to win lane/midgame but he is not a champ att all if he doesnt get 4 items hes good cos his movility???? he cant get prio in lane so hes movility/roam doesnt matter at all and stop complaining about he doesnt need to land qs cos oh lord he does need it since his e does 0 dmg and his auto got gutted low as lo ad and plsthe dusckblade thing again? this item is SO bad it gives low ad low lethality and the proc does A LOT less dmg than items like gunblade...

In all honestly i have no clue what your trying to argue lol

Basically your agreeing with my overall point that zed is currently bad, but your arguing that zed isnt usable at all. My point was that even though he is bad he is still usable (to an extent) and that there is less priority in landing q since most of his dmg comes from either runes or items like duskblade. Im not saying you never have to land any q's im saying that there is less priority then when zed was actually strong (thus making him a little braindead)

FéliXXX1 votes

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In all honestly i have no clue what your trying to argue lol

Basically your agreeing with my overall point that zed is currently bad, but your arguing that zed isnt usable at all. My point was that even though he is bad he is still usable (to an extent) and that there is less priority in landing q since most of his dmg comes from either runes or items like duskblade. Im not saying you never have to land any q's im saying that there is less priority then when zed was actually strong (thus making him a little braindead)

yeah i know what u were saying and i know it was wrong so thats why i said that he is not ''usable'' unless you play him in aram normals or low elo there is MORE priority in landing q cos is ur only source of dmg bcos ur e does almost no dmg and ur aa and as are so bad also ur ult is so ez to counter

DaTrout771 votes

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yeah i know what u were saying and i know it was wrong so thats why i said that he is not ''usable'' unless you play him in aram normals or low elo there is MORE priority in landing q cos is ur only source of dmg bcos ur e does almost no dmg and ur aa and as are so bad also ur ult is so ez to counter

k bud thanks for agreeing with me. Have a good day.

FéliXXX1 votes

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k bud thanks for agreeing with me. Have a good day.

np bro thanks for having a rly solid points eventough there was nothing backed up with facts or any sense in there but ok have a good day

FéliXXX4 votes

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You are talking about Faker here.....he can play any champ and make them look good regardless of their winrate and stats. One person's view does not mean Riot needs to buff him.

Because in the rest of the elos, he's strong as hell and doesn't need anything.

its not 1 person view every high elo zed main thinks zed needs buff eu zed 1tricks stop playing him there is only 1 zed 1trick in a top tier server pros doesnt play him anymore faker literaly said he is crap and if you play him its time to move to other champ is the assassin with more counterplay in the game and is the only assassin that cant abuse new dark harvest bcos of how little dmg he does when the enemy buys armor and you are telling me that he is ok? YIKES

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