Who will make best use of the reworked Black Cleaver?

DJ Di0··4 votes·1,227 views

Will Vi players be taking it more now?

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Shadow Gilgamesh3 votes

Garen MonkeyKing Darius all come to mind

Blue Collar Bear3 votes

I don't think it would be that bad on Rengar.

Since he gets the most effective health from stacking health items early on, it would be great for him.

Lt Cuddles1 votes

I second this, +1.

Blue Collar Bear3 votes

Hydra is also core on him, so it would be easy to apply the aoe buff by diving into the enemy team when they're grouped.

Lt Cuddles1 votes

Oh d-dear >\\\\<

Blue Collar Bear2 votes

And then...

Frozen Mallet + Rage passive = super sticky

Lt Cuddles1 votes

Fluffy nu!...

Blue Collar Bear2 votes

UNCLE YES

Lt Cuddles1 votes

\\\~\\\<

Meep Man3 votes

I would say AD Casters that have limited mobility will have this as nearly a must buy (as well as the ones who already have it as a huge item for them), so...

Darius Fiora Gangplank Garen Nasus Olaf Rengar Riven Talon Udyr Volibear MonkeyKing Yorick

... will probably be the main beneficiaries of this change.

TheSaltyScourge2 votes

Everyone that you can build it on. Fucking broken.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I'm looking forward to using it on Gnar in top lane. I would usually get Frozen Mallet as my "damage" item since it gave some AD and a permaslow, which would allow you to kite or chase indefinitely with Hyper.

Black Cleaver will give him armor penetration so that he can amplify his team's damage to tanks, the CDR will be fantastic, and the Rage passive will give nice movement speed. It has a better build path as well, which is quite convenient.

Lt Cuddles6 votes

Ah yes, new item 3071 puts item 3022 in a deeper hole of disuse due to the changes, hopefully it gets reworked too.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

I'm not sure if I would say that, though I do agree it could do with some work. Frozen Mallet will still a better option for peeling and chasing people for your team while Black Cleaver will be a better selfish item for damage and CDR. They'll both have their niche.

Honestly, I could see a lot of champions who build one item pick up the other as well. A bruiser with Black Cleaver, Thornmail, and Frozen Mallet could be very annoying to deal with.

Lt Cuddles1 votes

Well, the combo could become a thing too, I can't speak 100% for what combinations people try. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ScreamPaste2 votes

Darius

It's practically custom made for him.

Hard4Hamsters2 votes

Two words

Urgot

Sukishoo1 votes

that's one word.

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

Somebody didn't watch Hercules.

LadyRenly1 votes

Honestly...I don't know if I like this new one over the old one for Urgot...

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

It's kind of neutral for him. He does lose some Armor pen and the early brutalizer power spike, but he gets more sticking power/kiting ability, more CDR, more health, and more armor shred. He will benefit from the change, but it makes him just a tad weaker in the early-earlymidgame. His latemid -lategame will still be strong, and in fact stronger thanks to the item change. I'm interested in seeing how his rework goes and if the item will still be strong on him, but as it stands, he will heavily benefit from this item.

DJ Di01 votes

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Two words

Urgot

Oh god.

Svddenly1 votes

Udyr TIGER UDYR

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