What the hell is with this sudden surge of True Damage?

lol I died again·10/22/2015, 7:03:54 AM·104 votes·5,662 views

Every rework these days seems to come with an enormous amount of true damage. Gangplank's AAs hitting for 10-15% of your life as true damage. Fiora killing you and having over half her damage as true damage.

I mean, true damage is fine, but it's everywhere now and it's so far beyond completely out of control.

116 Comments

SEKAI10/22/2015, 11:14:55 AM60 votes

True damage is okay.

What's actually disgusting is the %HP.

Tik11510/22/2015, 4:39:18 PM20 votes

True damage is fine its the % true damage which isn't

I mean Kindred does % current AND % Max hp damage but its got a counter because its not true damage it's physical, sure it'll deal alot when she gets marks but it's still got it's counter in armour

Vayne and Fiora have % max health true damage which makes it impossible to counter (Armour does nothing, Health makes it hurt more)

I'm fine with having true damage so long as its got limits (Irelias is low, Garen only applys to the villian, Darius is based on bleed stacks) and I'm fine with % damage (Except % missing) but % true damage is near impossible to balance (Its ether too small to mean much or broken OP) and needs to be removed

Rebonack10/22/2015, 3:06:30 PM16 votes

True Damage is a good way to help champions deal lots of damage without causing them turn soft targets into a fine red mist.

Riot has been trying to figure out how to make melee carries viable without simply giving them MOAR DAMAGE than ranged carries. The formula they have found works best is to give melee carries some way to invalidate enemy defense.

THESuperStuntMan10/22/2015, 2:57:38 PM8 votes

I feel True damage is fine. You can just build HP to counter that. The bigger problem I feel is all the %health damage there is. The only counter to that is to not pick a tank in the first place and just build damage.

Kitten of Evil10/22/2015, 5:23:05 PM6 votes

If balanced well it's really not a problem: Velkoz Corki Twitch Having mixed damage on a champion is a good way to make it harder to counterbuild that champion: Physical damage = armor Magical damage = MR True damage = HP

I think it's more that % HP damage is hard to balance, whatever kind it is. Tahm Kench's 32% of your max HP + 8% of his max HP is pretty ridiculous too

Oelyk10/22/2015, 2:54:15 PM5 votes

Counters tank meta. also Screws up squishies.

Actually xPeke10/22/2015, 3:25:48 PM4 votes

There's not that much true damage. Just a lot of % damage. which is annoying.. and stupidly broken if you look at Tahm his 32% max health damage

Yaskamasandwich10/22/2015, 3:45:02 PM4 votes

True damage is fine until you mix Blade of the Ruined King into the mix. Then add Last Whisper on top of that for the lawls. Most synergized ad items are out of control but at least it costs gold. It's not also as crazy as %health damage since true damage gets hit harder by shields.

brad10/22/2015, 4:40:50 PM3 votes

mfw bard ekko kindred and tom dont have true damage, all 4 champions released in 2015

mfw the ONLY CHAMPIONS who got true damage put onto them were gangplank and fiora, and garen

mfw u think there is a "surge of true damage"

Meep Man10/22/2015, 11:48:26 AM3 votes

Garen, Gangplank, and Fiora... thats 3 of 7 recent reworks. Also Gangplank's is in no way a problem.

Crownsy10/23/2015, 2:06:42 PM3 votes

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Every rework these days seems to come with an enormous amount of true damage. Gangplank's AAs hitting for 10-15% of your life as true damage. Fiora killing you and having over half her damage as true damage.

I mean, true damage is fine, but it's everywhere now and it's so far beyond completely out of control.

It was to deal with the Tank meta, to cut past the armor tank. Which is now pretty much killed due to them redoing items. So now we have champs going around doing True damage to squishes and fighters.

Riot at it's finest

Jasiwel10/23/2015, 12:09:05 AM2 votes

True damage is okay because it's often conditional and you can build against with straight HP. The problem is easily %healthtruedamage to which there is no counter other than "just kill them bro."

Stand in my X10/23/2015, 4:30:10 PM2 votes

CertainlyT strikes again

TyroneWatermelon10/23/2015, 4:01:15 PM2 votes

What if I spoil you,Poppy going to have true damage also And probably some of the preseason marksmen update They should create an item that reduced true damage(yes it's retarded and eliminating the concept) but still could work no?

S3XAS10/23/2015, 4:09:19 PM2 votes

Lets be honest Riot is out of ideas for the champs. Most reworks now have stacking passive and true dmg.

Valor Bot10/22/2015, 11:55:13 PM2 votes

Did they ever go through with the Syndra buffs that were going to grant her true damage?