PSA: What NOT to put on Vlad

For Carthage··2 votes·753 views

Do not build Liandry's Torment on Vlad.

Like, goddamn seriously. Come on.

Edit: To explain how Liandry's is really bad on Vlad:

Vlad can do an absurd amount of damage within split seconds. That means that Liandry's main passive - the 2% of current health damage - will be largely unused unless it's a full tank team. Putting on Liandry's is straight up wasting utility you could better get from Rylai's or Void, and Void would do you ten times the good against squishy units as ignoring 35% of MR is probably one of the most underrated things in the game.

This is also just glossing over the fact that Vlad naturally defeats tanks due to his sustain. Sustain > Tanks > Burst > Sustain.

So no. Liandry's is NOT a good item on Vlad because the only use it has in terms of teamplay is tank shredding which Vlad already does so astonishingly well you'd be far beyond overkill by building it. It gives you little to no benefit against ADC's and other squishies which still make up the vast bulk of the damage done to your team, and since heavy, immediate damage is what rips Vlad to shreds, this is going to cause you more pain in your weaknesses.

7 Comments

Crett2 votes

double dips on his passive (although honestly the hp to ap scaling is unnoticeable) and gives mpen for blowing squishies to smithereens, gives decent tank shredding when paired with rylai's

it's not an awful pick on vladimir. definitely not as bad as building athene's or rod of ages on vladimir

Leti the Yeti3 votes

i build muramana on vlad all da time m8 get duh enhanced autos to fling more painful bood at the enemies pentakills all day erryday

Crett1 votes

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i build muramana on vlad all da time m8 get duh enhanced autos to fling more painful bood at the enemies pentakills all day erryday

item 3068 item 3078 item 3091 item 3170 item 3090 item 3065

seeing this build work in TT made me scream

IcyPepper1 votes

What if you're against a tank or bruiser?

It Hertz When IP1 votes

You high, dude? Vlad's one of the few mages who benefits 100% from every stat the item has, and in the current tank meta he can apply the DoT to a large number of targets in seconds with E.

There really needs to be some kind of rule about putting "PSA" in the title of a ridiculous post.

Martyrofsand1 votes

Sadly most people are still using one of the two standard vlad builds, namely 21/9 or 9/21 and as such find themselves sitting at around 15% CDR with WoTa or 25% with WoTA and Visage. The sad result of this? Higher CDs makes justifing a subpar item like Liandries a bit easier. If people ever remember that split builds like 11/0/19 are amazing on vlad and enable him to start the game with 17% CDR with the right runes to go with it and beat most of his supposed "counters" they will also realize his damage gets so consistent with 27% CDR by the time you finish WoTA, at roughly 8-10 minutes, you won't need a "tano busting" item like Liandries because vlad will bust tanks as if without it due to the high sustained damage and ability to remove all the damage they do to him with ease.

For Carthage1 votes

See, that's the point I'm getting at. Once you're pumping in more than the enemy is pumping out, there's absolutely no reason to go with Liandry's. It does not fit into his massive burst. It goes against the logic of his ultimate - which drastically increases his burst - and offers nothing but a miniscule boost to his passive.

Liandry's has the same issue on Vlad as Nashor's does on Azir - on paper, it seems to go fantastically with his passive. In practice, far more is going to waste than you're gaining from it.

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