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Problems with Sion

Secretbeef·10/14/2014, 7:40:19 AM·2 votes·1,362 views

Sion has less base health than Blitz and Sona

He has less health at level 1 than Blitz and a touch more than Sona...This is an issue.

Basically he has to use his W passive just to keep up with other bruisers.

My other issue with him is his E... It deals 210 MAGIC damage(no scaling), it slows them briefly(60% for 2.5 seconds) and reduces their armor for 20%.

As long as Vi is hitting you, you're armor is reduced by 20% for 4 seconds while dealing max HP damage, Darius has 25% ARP built in.... Without his ult, Sion is just a big kite, and you give him a short range slow :/. Sure when he gets ahold of someone he can lock them down... But so can Leona, or Nautilus, or Blitz...

Sion needs buffs, but carefully... He's too clunky to be considered good, or even better than his former self, but it would also be easy to over buff him...

3 things he needs

To not have to wait to revive, but rather keep swinging ala tryn, but killable. Yes it would help win duels he shouldn't but so does Darius' R and Many other executes
An E that is meaningful... Out of all the times I've played him I have really only had 1 meaningful E. It needs damage, scaling or something.
His shield needs to be more shielding, especially if you're not going to give him good base HP. It's a huge source of his damage. His base stats are horrible... He relies on things like this, he has no steroids.

11 Comments

Pinkie Pie lol10/14/2014, 9:19:15 AM4 votes

I LOVE people who say sion shouldn't be buffed. When poppy/riven/darius/GAREN/Mordekaiser/ryze/shy/maokai OH and GANGPLANK beat him in lane and beat him late game. whats the point, Sion is just a HP tank, he doesn't do the damage and his ult is easily dodge able unless he pops it up in your face and even then, it doesn't hurt that much.

People who have sion's wreck them shows they are really bad, sion is NOT the one wrecking you, it's his team behind him cause you kept focusing him (the tank)

Edit: OH, just a tip, nasus does MORE late game then sion does cause nasus has a ranged target slow(which hurts adcs) and a AOE armor shred WITH a ult which makes him stronger the more people is around him. So yah..crap sion is crap.

Lord OwlBear10/14/2014, 8:04:09 AM3 votes

I do agree with much of what you said, only thing I will say is that now his ult is amazing. Doesn't even matter if I miss it. It is amazing.

Arrion10/14/2014, 8:44:56 AM2 votes

Um no. Sion does NOT need buffs. I've been in games where I've watched a well played Sion single handedly almost wreck my entire team which by no means sucked, and even after dying, because his passive has no CD at all, forced the team to scatter because his outbound damage is just RIDICULOUS.

Sion in his new form is fine as is.

Knight SoIaire 10/14/2014, 9:00:40 AM2 votes

dont buff hiim or you will create a monster worse than yasuo at his release he is fine, deals good dmg and tanks good

Oatmeal Piper10/14/2014, 7:46:45 AM1 votes

Sion is a walking meatshield of sh**

Lord Malice10/15/2014, 6:25:44 AM1 votes

Yah, and they need to make the hit box on his ult bigger, i chain played sion as soon as the rework was live and it only took about 1.5 to 2 days before everyone figured out what he did and how he worked then i hit fewer and fewer ults and almost no q's and the other team always saved at least one slow/cc for my passive. Sion has got to be the easiest champ to kite in the game with no trade off.

Arch Mage Magnus10/14/2014, 10:15:51 AM1 votes

I'd have to agree. His W on his hit points really doesn't do much. Late game.... you might have 400 extra HP, which sounds like a lot, but honestly.... what is that late game, one crit from an ADC that is getting about 75% crit. All of that farming for that.

You will never hit anyone with a brain with his Q, UNLESS.... you somehow slam into someone with your ult, which you can easily move out of the way off (Fizz troll polling it matador style). If you want a tank, pick someone better at it, with better crowd control, and an ult that does damage. Garen, Volibear, Nasus, or Malphite. In his current state, he doesn't do enough damage to be a bruiser, and lacks the HP to be a decent tank.

Woook3r10/14/2014, 4:41:23 PM1 votes

Please read my suggestions and vote on my page. I think that all of his abilities including his E and Ult should be charge capable.

His new E allows champ knock-backs and stuns so he can PEEL. Its great.

Here is my thread please vote.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vUvmcqeA-tweak-sion-to-give-us-more-gameplay-choices

OxBaker10/15/2014, 12:06:42 AM1 votes

Sion isn't far off viable. I think the buffs OP suggested would put him on the level of other tanks like Mao or Ali. At least they can do a little damage.