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ok can someone explain how this makes any sense? i swear they were hacking.

Bradley Dragon··1 votes·842 views

i wa splaying as pantheon. going full dmg early game as usual and kicking my top laners ass. most kills in game, ya know the drill.

then i start being less effective. so i tank up. eventually im using item 3033 item 3143 item 3068 item 3075 item 3047 item 3025 tried item 3143 item 3068 item 3075 item 3047 item 3026 item 3110 and felt like i was squishy as fuck despite having nearly 500 armor and 3k hp. im vs a 4/5 physical dmg team. my thornmail was SUPPOSED to be relfecting 100+ pre mitigation dmg. and doing nothing.

i was literally dieing faster then the glass cannon orianna. according to my stats i should have been taking 87% less dmg... not even close. the full tank poppy was shredding me with little to no armor pen. and even thornmail plus grvious wounds was having no effect on olaf whatsoever. i just cant win vs hackers. i seriously just cant. counterbuilding is impossible. and works liek a charm on enemies. they can have 1 armor item. and act like a tank god. yet me with 5 tank items feel like a soap bubble.

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AeroWaffle4 votes

In your latest Lee game;

There was a full build Caitlyn with armor pen and botrk A almost-full build Yi who has a passive that deals scaling true damage on his autos and also had bloodrazor. A Teemo with crazy amount of AP and Lich bane, which you had no magic resist to deal with. An Olaf with 32% aoe lifesteal, not including the bonus applied from his W.

I doubt they were hacking especially given your track record on the forum to claim that every other game you have is filled with "hackers".

Bradley Dragon1 votes

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In your latest Lee game;

There was a full build Caitlyn with armor pen and botrk A almost-full build Yi who has a passive that deals scaling true damage on his autos and also had bloodrazor. A Teemo with crazy amount of AP and Lich bane, which you had no magic resist to deal with. An Olaf with 32% aoe lifesteal, not including the bonus applied from his W.

I doubt they were hacking especially given your track record on the forum to claim that every other game you have is filled with "hackers".

can you explian why thornmail was having 0 effect on basic attack champs it is DESIGNED to work against?

AeroWaffle3 votes

Thornmail only deals back some magic damage on every auto with a bunch of armor, it's not a "I win against AD now". If you're dead you're not dealing the damage anymore.

They had the late-game scaling champs with the nessessary items to shred you. Cait and Olaf had plenty of lifesteal to counteract any passive damage the thornmail + grievous wounds could deal, while Yii likely just solo'ed you with his true damage before the thorn damage stacked up to anything useful.

So, once again, bring those videos in if you're going to claim that they're hacking. Otherwise I say your hacker claim is all bupkis.

wishbone253 votes

try item 3742 item 3065 item 3068 item 3512

Bradley Dragon1 votes

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try item 3742 item 3065 item 3068 item 3512

and hw is that any different? if anything that would be worse. visage is magic resist and i gave up on lifesteal so the increased healing is useless.

wishbone251 votes

lethal the new format is why tanks are useless now

CancerBasedGod4 votes

If you understood anything about lethality you'd understand that is completely backward.

Bradley Dragon1 votes

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If you understood anything about lethality you'd understand that is completely backward.

and lethality maxes out at 80 armor pen. even after the 80 less armor, -45% anf -7% im STILL above 250 armor. which is more then most tanks have. and still was melted

CancerBasedGod1 votes

You had no defense against teemo, Cait had LDR and % health damage from bork, Olaf had BC and he deals true damage with one of his abilities. You're not supposed to survive all that 5v1.

Bradley Dragon1 votes

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You had no defense against teemo, Cait had LDR and % health damage from bork, Olaf had BC and he deals true damage with one of his abilities. You're not supposed to survive all that 5v1.

teemo was nearly useless that game. most of teh time i was killed by the full tank poppy. who was almost impossible to kill. and with lethality runes and armor pen items was imune to dmg. tanking up didnt even change anything. and no i was not in her q. her basic attacks. and e killed me .

MrHaZeYo3 votes

Poppy does Magical %HP damage. Cait has LDR, Bork and BT which means she bypasses Thornmail. Teemo did 52k damage that game, so I'd say he did more then shit.

Looking at all your builds though on OP.GG, most of them are awful.

AeroWaffle1 votes

Poppy does Magical %HP damage.

Not anymore I think. The hammer proc is now physical.

Only her dash stop and shield throw passive deals magic damage now. But regardless, her Q still deals a great deal of %max health especially if hit by both procs.

Sincarnation1 votes

Depends on builds and masteries actually, if your opponent went FULL PEN im talking all lethality items + cleaver + last whisper you don't really get to be a tank. Its THAT much armor pen. However people fail to realize the value in the defensive masteries (which you probably didnt take on panth), they contribute A LOT to making a champ tanky depending on the champ.

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