Curious About Quinn

Aarekk·7/1/2015, 6:28:51 AM·6 votes·8,230 views

Hey folks at Riot. Not sure if you'll see this but I was just curious about Quinn. A while back, some fairly drastic changes popped onto the PBE about her but were taken down almost immediately. I love Quinn conceptually, thematically and aesthetically. She was the first champion released after I started playing League and was an instabuy of the bundle and an instabuy for the Woad skin. However, I am well aware that I am not skilled enough to utilize her kit to its fullest potential in bot lane, especially when it comes to her ultimate. As such, the changes that started floating around for a very short time seemed interesting to me. Then they were gone and there was silence on the subject of Quinn. I guess what I'm asking is, since they've been gone for a while, do you think you can talk about the short lived changes? What was your thinking behind them, why did you decide not to go through with them, what were you goals with them, do you have any other ideas about her? I'm just looking for a bit of summoner 13 regarding one of my favorite champions. Thanks in advance if you do get a chance to read through this and pop in to respond.

24 Comments

RiotMeddler7/1/2015, 6:51:05 AM12 votes

The changes that briefly ended up on the PBE were exploring a version of Quinn where she'd been shifted to be more of a roaming ADC. Idea there was that we might be able to get her into a really interesting space by making her ult into a powerful out of combat mobility effect, rather than a variant combat form. That's something we're still really interested in exploring, when time permits. It's very much a 'let's see what this looks like' rather than a 'this is what Quinn should be changed to' at this point though.

Jeddy0177/1/2015, 10:47:59 AM1 votes

Can someone post a link (a Surrender at 20 link if you can) to these experimental Quinn & Valor changes that we're talking about?Or you could tell me what these changes were & when they were put up on the PBE (then taken down). I would like a little context here people.

Kouga7/1/2015, 6:42:02 AM1 votes

Definitely still needs some work - she is very buggy and has some clunky animation mechanics that make her flat out harder to play than she needs to be. That said, have you tried taking her top? She's actually quite fun

sortitus7/2/2015, 10:58:09 PM1 votes

I also liked the PBE changes, but I do think that she should keep her identity as a weird ranged/melee assassin with an execute who's most at home in a solo lane, but can also be played as an ADC in some cases (like Urgot).

The biggest problem I have with her is not her kit, but how long her AA windup time is. She's one of the most difficult ADCs to kite with, on par with pre-rework Tristana for animation unresponsiveness. Fixing Harrier so it behaves the same way as Lux's Illumination would be a big improvement as well (it currently checks for bonus damage on attack, not on hit). Being so vulnerable to CC while in her "escape" skill animation is also a big frustration for Quinn players.

I think giving her something like 1/2 of her W passive for each previously unseen enemy champion revealed (on cast, not if they walk in after) would be a nice small buff. It would reward her for predicting ganks and enhance her assassination abilities when an enemy flees through fog of war.

TnToom7/5/2015, 11:43:55 PM1 votes

Quinn is not a difficult champion, though is very strong. Quinn is great right now, and really strong. You just need to learn how to play her. She very much does NOT need to get buffed, that would make her over-powered, and possible the next Riven. Please Riot, keep Quinn nice and balanced. Quinn is one of my mains, and I don't want to see her get overplayed.Quinn

xXDJM4sterXx7/2/2015, 11:19:07 AM1 votes

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Hey folks at Riot. Not sure if you'll see this but I was just curious about Quinn. A while back, some fairly drastic changes popped onto the PBE about her but were taken down almost immediately. I love Quinn conceptually, thematically and aesthetically. She was the first champion released after I started playing League and was an instabuy of the bundle and an instabuy for the Woad skin. However, I am well aware that I am not skilled enough to utilize her kit to its fullest potential in bot lane, especially when it comes to her ultimate. As such, the changes that started floating around for a very short time seemed interesting to me. Then they were gone and there was silence on the subject of Quinn. I guess what I'm asking is, since they've been gone for a while, do you think you can talk about the short lived changes? What was your thinking behind them, why did you decide not to go through with them, what were you goals with them, do you have any other ideas about her? I'm just looking for a bit of summoner 13 regarding one of my favorite champions. Thanks in advance if you do get a chance to read through this and pop in to respond.

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Hey folks at Riot. Not sure if you'll see this but I was just curious about Quinn. A while back, some fairly drastic changes popped onto the PBE about her but were taken down almost immediately. I love Quinn conceptually, thematically and aesthetically. She was the first champion released after I started playing League and was an instabuy of the bundle and an instabuy for the Woad skin. However, I am well aware that I am not skilled enough to utilize her kit to its fullest potential in bot lane, especially when it comes to her ultimate. As such, the changes that started floating around for a very short time seemed interesting to me. Then they were gone and there was silence on the subject of Quinn. I guess what I'm asking is, since they've been gone for a while, do you think you can talk about the short lived changes? What was your thinking behind them, why did you decide not to go through with them, what were you goals with them, do you have any other ideas about her? I'm just looking for a bit of summoner 13 regarding one of my favorite champions. Thanks in advance if you do get a chance to read through this and pop in to respond.

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Hey folks at Riot. Not sure if you'll see this but I was just curious about Quinn. A while back, some fairly drastic changes popped onto the PBE about her but were taken down almost immediately. I love Quinn conceptually, thematically and aesthetically. She was the first champion released after I started playing League and was an instabuy of the bundle and an instabuy for the Woad skin. However, I am well aware that I am not skilled enough to utilize her kit to its fullest potential in bot lane, especially when it comes to her ultimate. As such, the changes that started floating around for a very short time seemed interesting to me. Then they were gone and there was silence on the subject of Quinn. I guess what I'm asking is, since they've been gone for a while, do you think you can talk about the short lived changes? What was your thinking behind them, why did you decide not to go through with them, what were you goals with them, do you have any other ideas about her? I'm just looking for a bit of summoner 13 regarding one of my favorite champions. Thanks in advance if you do get a chance to read through this and pop in to respond.

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Hey folks at Riot. Not sure if you'll see this but I was just curious about Quinn. A while back, some fairly drastic changes popped onto the PBE about her but were taken down almost immediately. I love Quinn conceptually, thematically and aesthetically. She was the first champion released after I started playing League and was an instabuy of the bundle and an instabuy for the Woad skin. However, I am well aware that I am not skilled enough to utilize her kit to its fullest potential in bot lane, especially when it comes to her ultimate. As such, the changes that started floating around for a very short time seemed interesting to me. Then they were gone and there was silence on the subject of Quinn. I guess what I'm asking is, since they've been gone for a while, do you think you can talk about the short lived changes? What was your thinking behind them, why did you decide not to go through with them, what were you goals with them, do you have any other ideas about her? I'm just looking for a bit of summoner 13 regarding one of my favorite champions. Thanks in advance if you do get a chance to read through this and pop in to respond.

I totally agree will take quinn rework to collaborate in teamfigts that would help the team think quinn is a adc forgotten because I see few people playing with it and I think we need to take rework also for it to call attention players