PBE and Warwick: STOP, FOR THE LOVE OF TOP LANE

Carniverous·12/1/2014, 9:37:23 PM·7 votes·1,470 views

First and foremost I totally agree something needs to be done. Warwick's synergy with the Champsmite/Devourer is way too powerful. I do hate being ulted and one shotted by the tank. Other champions using this are not as powerful as Warwick. Their winrate is still below his. While warwick as a 109% pick/ban rate. Both teams are picking WW in blind pick... Uhg.

But what's my problem? WW has to be nerfed because of this New Feral Flare. I play Warwick in top lane. I am getting nerffed into the ground it feels like, because other people who play him in jungle. So if we pretend these nerfs go though and work really well in the jungle, number wise. What happens to top lane? I don't have a 300~ True damage 500~ Devourer ult plus Wits end and ~500 from Bortk. ( I was shocked to read these numbers from a WW when I was playing Malz. Build:item 3718 item 3153 item 3091 item 3020 item 3110 item 3065 108 bonus damage from Devourer. 109, after I died.I believe he also activated Bortk. )

I was ripped a new one, it wasn't fair. But what's more unfair, one of my favorite champs in top lane is going to have a huge hit with the Nerf Stick. I don't want to play WW in the jungle. Or be forced to because I'm now too weak with out that item.

I know it would be a lot of work, and not easy to fix this in a way that dosen't just quickly solve WW's new found power with a Nerf to his kit. But I want to have strength in top lane. I don't want to lose damage on my ult, and don't want to lose 4 whole seconds of attack speed.

It's like coming out with a new item 3089 for mages. And nerfing Irelia because it made her too strong. (^ A joke )

26 Comments

Talamare12/1/2014, 9:45:26 PM24 votes

I think you made a good point here

The problem really is not Warwick or Devourer

If we just nerf Irelia, it should make things okay again

SmokingPuffin12/1/2014, 9:53:03 PM11 votes

Champions are always balanced based on their strongest role. There's no way around this.

Sorry that you're taking collateral damage. It is inevitable, though. Reminds me of AP mid Ezreal collateral damage way back in the day.

Quepha12/1/2014, 9:55:35 PM3 votes

warwick top lane would be even more boring than irelia...

AtheosisX12/1/2014, 10:06:35 PM3 votes

Nothing to be done about it. Warwick is played in the jungle far, far more than he is played top. That's what they are going to balance him for.

Cenobite Azaziel12/2/2014, 2:23:53 AM2 votes

Fun fact is that the PBE saber doesn't proc on hit effects anymore and devourer got cutted to half starting stacks. WW is getting nerfed for no reason now.

Drunk Rummate12/1/2014, 9:45:45 PM2 votes

im fairly certain they're testing nerfs to skirmisher and devourer right now on PBE. someone will surely correct me if i'm mistaken but WW hasn't been nerfed on PBE yet.

youngjake9312/1/2014, 10:57:12 PM2 votes

I agree totally. The ult cd nerf was dumb. Jungle Warwick can just farm more stacks until his ult comes back up. You rarely gank the INSTANT your ult is up anyway. Top Warwick was hit way harder because you need your ult much more often to get fed and win duels when threatened. Then, the W nerf hits top harder than jungle too. You use W for long duels in top, clearing waves and taking towers. W does help Warwick's clear speed, but there are almost no ganks that are going to last 10 or even 6 seconds long. Then finally the ult damage nerf just makes Warwick kinda want to farm a little more in the jungle for more items+power which doesn't hurt him that much, but that loss of damage can cause you to lose top lane if you're not careful.

But they obviously need to nerf him, so whatever. The new jungle has taken its first victim. R.I.P. Lanewick

Gunpoint12/2/2014, 12:37:36 AM1 votes

Why not just completely rework Warwick like they've been planning to. Make it so he has some actual animations instead of just teleporting and flailing his arms around, and make it so he isn't just walking around and AAing people too.

Flemman12/2/2014, 2:16:33 AM1 votes

well, now that he is nerf, poeple will just jump on the next top sustain jungler who can easely kill a laner who don't know how to ward early. (nunu maybe?)

In the end, sustain jungler probably gonna all be nerfed and the season 4 trinity will take back the top spot

Leti the Yeti12/1/2014, 9:43:48 PM1 votes

and then i got qss and that shet ticked ;/