Lethality Melee Only

AverageSpoon·Feb 23, 2017·4 votes·687 views

When is this gonna happen? you can't have lethality be a good choice for assassins and not expect marksmen to abuse the shit out of it.

11 Comments

Seductive NunFeb 23, 20171 votes

lol I was just in a game with kha and I was cait. kha got 1 item and startup 1 shot me....................... lethality bugged didn't help adc it helped assassins kill adc's even faster.

AverageSpoonFeb 23, 20171 votes

They can then balance lethality around assassins better though.

MizayaFeb 23, 20171 votes

Have you considered that we might be in a meta where crit build on adc is absolute shit?

AverageSpoonFeb 23, 20171 votes

Because the game ends before you buy your third item....

HammermancerFeb 23, 20171 votes

Varus Lucian Jayce are all ranged champs that have always built flat armor pen, and will always want armor pen, stop trying to restrict various popular and high skill cap champs because of your bias against certain champions who are thriving due to the imbalances in a set of items and their synergy with certain kits.

Lethality is meant for AD casters, if adcs are a problem with it then the problem is with base values on abilities and scaling values on the items. which to me means buff base values on assassins and some fighters while nerfing the base values on certain other ad champions, and then raise their ratios..

AverageSpoonFeb 23, 20171 votes

Varus and Lucian can be perfectly fine crit champions. Jayce is literally the only ranged champion that would need lethality. Would it be so awful to have jayces go bruiser instead?

HammermancerFeb 23, 20171 votes

you seem to be mistaking me stating a short list between me stating a comprehensive list

Corki He's not even ad, he's closet ap mid lane

Caitlyn Optimal with crit in a perfect world, can live without lethality, still thrives off ad casting.

Draven Can do what Draven wants

Ezreal well here we go, this guy never built normal. But in all honesty he's a great champ who survives despite the weakness of items that cater to him because he finds ways to abuse things that aren't meant for him

Fiddlesticks Worst adc in the game, but he builds crit

Graves crit is fine on him if he's adc, but if he's jg then... meh.. too expensive.. but he's the first AD caster listed on here, and in all honesty he functions with crit because of his AA mechanics and synergy with lifesteal in addition to his burst

Gnar ok this is a tank, you're going to build him like a darius usually.

Jayce to build him bruiser would literally make him weak in both melee and ranged form, without any compensation from the bruiser items. defensive items got nerfed for their caustic impact the last time we had the short meta issues, now everyone is building flat pen. Jayce is intended to be squishy. If they completely redid his numbers from the ground up, including adding passive defensive stats in hammer form, and the like... then sure, but you're suggesting idiocy

Lucian is now, always has been, weak with crit. His kit sports ability spam, while critical strike can apply to his AA's he still has less synergy.

Jhin well he should be a crit champ every time

Jinx she's too aa heavy, it shouldn't be this way.

MissFortune she's quite frankly one of the bigger candidates, as an ad caster, she has some crit synergy but even less than lucian.

Quinn honestly lethality suits her playstyle, numbers should be tweaked, but it suits her

Sivir yeah, she doesn't get played, because she only works with crit

Tristana Weak or busted champ, the simplicity of her kit makes her inherrently harder to balance, either way her combination of magic damage and attack speed oriented builds makes her not work with flat pen

Twitch You know, if someone described to me as an abstract the concept of ADCs building assassin items, i'd assume he would love them, but apparently he just works with crit so much better.

Varus caster adc, lethality is a perfect marriage for him. His lack of mobility makes it work great.

Vayne yeah duskblade should never have worked for her more than once in a fight

Urgot lethality is perfect for him. and he needed something

Ashe forgot her above, yeah she shouldn't be building pen like that

AverageSpoonFeb 24, 20171 votes

An added crit mechanic to one of their abilities fixes Varus, Lucian and MF already has a crit on her ultimate, crit is 100% viable on MF....Urgot is getting reworked, Crit Quinn is still usable, compensation buffs fix like half of the champs you listed. The only problem I see with melee only lethality is Jayce.

Colton147Feb 23, 20171 votes

I love myself building Lethality on the Urgod and Quinn. :3

Anyway, I see melee champions abuse ranged items all the time, so it is only fair for ranged champions to do the same. (Statikk Shiv is a good example)

AverageSpoonFeb 24, 20171 votes

How many times has a champion been too strong because of shiv? Urgod rework is coming and quinn is viable as a crit champion.

Risen29Feb 24, 20171 votes

AD Casters basically just function like ranged mages. They cannot function as ADCs because they dont have the sustained damage to actually carry a fight against tanks and bruisers, or even well armored fighters and battle mages.

As far as Arpen goes - Mpen is far more powerful at negating squishy magic resist than arpen is, and you need less of it to do the job.

If ranged mages aren't a problem, AD casters aren't either.

You know you see people picking AP ranged into the ADC slot sometimes for a reason. It can be an effective way to gain an early advantage, but you'll be screwed mid to late game if you don't do something with that early advantage.