I am a Garen one trick pony, but I am sure Garen isnt the only champion who will suffer to Pantheon in lane phase.
How should I be approaching a bully pantheon ?
Because even at my turret he still manages to damage me without taking any damage back.
Probably the only lane I have no clue what I am doing.
Put three points into W early and use it to tank his spears. When he jumps on you, he has very little power to get out of the trade. Immediately followup with your own combo, and then hang back with your passive. This will take you to the midgame where Panth will begin to fall off and be unable to kill you due to your tankiness.
Let him push, farm under tower, call for ganks. Do NOT let him get kills, and ALWAYS tell your team to watch out for Pantheon ganks when he's level 6. If you see him missing, WARN EVERYONE. You are Garen, you will naturally outscale him when you get your second or third item. But you can't let him get fed or he will snowball his team
Just play safe and avoid fights when playing against stronger lane/lane you don't know how to vs against.
It's always better to miss some CS than die and miss even more CS.
Alright, all of the advice has been really helpful, Thanks all !
Fellow OTP Garen here (almost 400K mastery points, and more 200 games in Ranked with him this season).
Panth was never really a problem for me. I start cloth+4 pots, and he usually is OOM before I'm out of HP. Use your pots early, BEFORE falling below 40% HP, so his auto-crit doesn't proc: you save a lot of HPs by avoiding it.
Same for Thunderlord, you should be able to avoid TLD procs unless he actually uses his stun to keep you in place. If not, you're playing too aggressive/too greedy for CS. And with good reflex (easier said than done, I know), if you can trigger your spin+W when you see him jump on you, you're dealing free damage and you don't care about the stun. aa+Q reset after the end of E to proc Grasp, then back.
However, someone below suggested 3 points in W, it seems overkill to me. Maybe an 2nd point earlier than usual, but not more.
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How should I be approaching a bully pantheon ?
You shouldn't be. If you know that the particular matchup is hard for you, you should honestly avoid fighting a 1v1 the best you can. In a lane like that, if you don't get killed in laning phase, consider it a won lane.
I 1-trick Azir and if I end up against LeBlanc, I will never even TRY to fight her unless she's blown some cooldown before. If I go in first, I'm donnerd.
