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it's so hard to rank up in this game. in the end we'll be stuck in bronze.

2yftLP0KQC··2 votes·3,631 views

seriously, the win rate is suppose to be 50%. but my win rate is like 18% in ranked. No matter how hard i carry, i just can't seem to lead my team to victory. there's always someone that has to feed and doesn't understand the simple concept of playing safe. i hate carrying because i hate when the WHOLE game depends on me. the game should be team based, not single-person based. i just went from silver to bronze. i been playing mostly rank this week. and if you look at my record, it's not bad at all. if you check my match history you WILL ALWAYS see that one scrub in my with a score of 3/23/9 or an AFK. It never fails. the only way i can win, if my friends are online. they are hardly online tho, but my win rate with them is 98%. the rank base system should be based on your performance. how good you do in your match ups. there's no point of trying to rank up and your score looks like 30/5/12 while your scrub ass team mate is 3/16/5 because that game just went to waste. that whole time you were leading your team to victory, and you were dominating actually went to shit and you lost points towards ranking up.

a new point system should go into place. you get points deducted if you go negative in your KDA. you gain points if you if you go positive. you gain no points for going even, example 8/8/2. and you gain extra points if your team wins. that way, even if you lose you can still rank up because you are doing above average compare to your peers.

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BenignOmniscient3 votes

lol this is such a bad idea and only shows that you dont have a clue what this game is about or how it is won

Arch Mage Magnus2 votes

You basically need to play with a 5 on 5 team to be at least somewhat sure you are not going to get screwed. Everytime you for into solo queue, you are taking your chances.

2yftLP0KQC1 votes

You basically need to play with a 5 on 5 team to be at least somewhat sure you are not going to get screwed. Everytime you for into solo queue, you are taking your chances.

yeah thx bro. i guess i'm going to start arranging a team. this has been the best advice i've gotten so far.

2yftLP0KQC2 votes

ok, so why don't you tell me how to win. so i can rank up. there's no such thing as "get to diamond" guide. because like i said, no matter how hard you carry, if 1-2 of your team members are feeding/afk then you just lost. if you can beat me in 3 v 5. i'll gift you skins for the rest of your life. i can play imp, and i would rekt his team if his team was full of feeders and trolls.

Vòx2 votes

ok, so why don't you tell me how to win. so i can rank up. there's no such thing as "get to diamond" guide. because like i said, no matter how hard you carry, if 1-2 of your team members are feeding/afk then you just lost. if you can beat me in 3 v 5. i'll gift you skins for the rest of your life. i can play imp, and i would rekt his team if his team was full of feeders and trolls.

Several months ago people in GD hosted silver vs platinum games with a twist; the plat team was only allowed 3 players. The plat team also won every game. Your issue is that you don't understand what to do when you snowball or how to come back when your team is behind. You probably get cheesy kills and think that makes you good at the game, but obviously it does not, because you're stuck in bronze in spite of that.

Actually, I just looked at your match history and your scores aren't even good. Most games you don't even average 50cs per 10minutes. There's a game where you only have 1 death and 1 assist, but still manage to have only 85 cs at 20minutes. It makes me wonder if you were afk, because you basically did nothing that entire game. You probably just run around between lanes randomly trying to kill champions instead of actually making use of your time. That would also explain why sometimes you have a nice kda but lose. You don't do anything other than try to pk, and when you fail to get many kills from w/e cheesy strat you're trying, you fall incredibly far behind because you have no farm, which means no gold and no levels. Hell, even if your cheesy strat succeeds you'd get just as big farming. Maybe bigger. Roaming requires more thought to be successful than just "oh look, I have team members bot. omg they have team members bot too!! and if i go there it will be 3v2!!! omg op wtf"

tl;dr you belong there.

Oh, and there are plenty of guides to gaining elo. Just search google/youtube.

JuOkutVjkE2 votes

I'm going to say this as mildly as I can: If you feel stuck in bronze / silver, YOU BELONG THERE! At that elo, people aren't coordinated enough and make mistakes left and right. Once you get good enough at LoL, you will learn to capitalize on their mistakes even if everyone on your team feeds. You can literally 1v5 carry your way out of bronze / silver with the right knowledge and mentality. So no excuses and no moaning, suck it up and get better -- carry yourself out of elo hell, and then you can enjoy high level ranked play.

Lunaticwoda1 votes

I'm going to say this as mildly as I can: If you feel stuck in bronze / silver, YOU BELONG THERE! At that elo, people aren't coordinated enough and make mistakes left and right. Once you get good enough at LoL, you will learn to capitalize on their mistakes even if everyone on your team feeds. You can literally 1v5 carry your way out of bronze / silver with the right knowledge and mentality. So no excuses and no moaning, suck it up and get better -- carry yourself out of elo hell, and then you can enjoy high level ranked play.

I disagree with this how are you supposed to rank up if your getting afks. id love to see you win more than 10% of your game regardless of elo if your 4v5. And what about players who main support? Sucks to be them master a carry cause lets face it leona isn't carrying a team any time soon

JuOkutVjkE1 votes

I'll repeat myself one more time and never again: If you're stuck in the low elos, you belong there. If you're good enough you can literally carry yourself out without even having a team. If you want to climb, get good -- otherwise stop crying and go play some non-ranked.

Mikal Pikal1 votes

I'm going to say this as mildly as I can: If you feel stuck in bronze / silver, YOU BELONG THERE! At that elo, people aren't coordinated enough and make mistakes left and right. Once you get good enough at LoL, you will learn to capitalize on their mistakes even if everyone on your team feeds. You can literally 1v5 carry your way out of bronze / silver with the right knowledge and mentality. So no excuses and no moaning, suck it up and get better -- carry yourself out of elo hell, and then you can enjoy high level ranked play.

I disagree with this how are you supposed to rank up if your getting afks. id love to see you win more than 10% of your game regardless of elo if your 4v5. And what about players who main support? Sucks to be them master a carry cause lets face it leona isn't carrying a team any time soon

So listen to this very carefully because you are objectively wrong. Assuming you don't afk you only have four possible RANDOM people that can afk. The other team, which is also RANDOM (but doesn't have you) have five possible people that can afk. The same math applies for feeders, terrible players, good players, etc. If you are consistently losing then YOU are the weak link. There is ONE common denominator between all your games and that is YOU.

As for how to improve, there is actually a lot of good advice in this thread, but it always comes down to NOT BLAMING YOUR TEAM.

Onegarion2 votes

The thing I see wrong with a lot of players is they think that they are so much better than they really are. THey think that just because they have a great score that they did something great. There are a lot of factors in LoL that low elo players don't grasp and claim that the system is cheating them and keeping them down.

First thing I see is the CS problem. Low level players don't put enough emphasis into CSing and focus on simple kills. While its not arguable that kills give you leads, but when you watch high elo matches in the LCS or just soloque you see players bullying the opponent off the minion wave and freezing the lane so they lose cs. TO keep it simple 15 cs roughly equal 1 kill. SO if you are up 15 cs (roughly 250 gold) that means you are also up roughly 1 kill in gold. You can also look at it as even if you get 1 kill, but you fail to cs and your opponent has at least 15 more than you then you actually don't have a gold advantage on them. You are equal in gold and equally as strong. When you start getting higher having 1 extra pot can mean a won or lost lane.

Next thing is warding. Keeping not only many wards on the map from EVERYONE, but good wards. Places that let you see exactly where people are going. MIA's are nice, but if you are properly warding there is no need for MIA's. You will see the enemy coming. The only role I don't buy wards as is ADC unless I have a decent lead on my opponent and then I'm always getting pink wards to get the most out of my money. I see it in gold where people still think that in season 4 that only the support needs to get wards out, but its just not plausible anymore. Everyone on the team needs to ward.

Objective control. I'm still seeing it now. People chase for days for kills instead of taking down 1 tower and opening up the map more. When you get a good advantage you need to use it. Going back to lanes and farming is only helping the enemy team if you are ahead. When you kill their jungler look for dragons/barons/buffs to take from the map. WHen you see 2 enemies top pushing an outer tower and your whole team is mid push hard on the tower. That trade is a great trade and it opens up the whole map and makes your opponents play more defensively. I've seen numerous times where players would rather save 1 outer tower instead of going for a mid inner tower just to not show up in time. You need to be focused on the goal of killing the nexus and not with getting the most kills or saving the most towers. You will lose towers and its an acceptable trade when you are gaining something in return.

Ending the game is so hard at lower elos. I remember many games going 45+ minutes because we didn't understand how to end the game. You need to know when you are able to close it out and how. The longer the game goes the more even teams become.

Use your teams strengths for you. I've had games where we have champs like lucian, leona, Amumu, Orianna, and gnar, but the team refuses to teamfight. Thats ridiculous. Use your strengths for you and not against you. That teamcomp should not be split pushing, but forcing fights post 6. If you have a champ like Fiora /Tryndamere /Jax /etc you can focus more on split pushing and just stalling in other lanes, but make sure you have a solid 4v4 or you will lose. Don't pick 4 squishy champs or your opponent will beat you.

Know your champ. I can't stress this enough. I recently played with a guy who said he knows how to play Maokai. Well to put it simply he lied. He didn't know how to build him and he didn't know what half of his spells did. That ruined what could have been a great pick into a huge hindrance. Regardless of whether its a meta pick of not you need to know how to actually play/build your champ. You need to know when to combo abilities/trade/roam etc. I mainThresh and a key part of knowing him is knowing when to flay. I've seen tons of people let me get away because they instantly hook to me and flay instead of waiting for me to use my gap closers first.

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Rozencrantze1 votes

I went from Bronze 5 to Bronze 2 in a week. Albeit I only played Support or Mid when I had to. But I ensured my ADC got fed and we won every time. I found a few champs I am really good at and played those as much as I could. Can't stand it when ppl get in ranked and say "First time ____"

2yftLP0KQC1 votes

I went from Bronze 5 to Bronze 2 in a week. Albeit I only played Support or Mid when I had to. But I ensured my ADC got fed and we won every time. I found a few champs I am really good at and played those as much as I could. Can't stand it when ppl get in ranked and say "First time ____"

i feel you. but i don't feel like dodging for someone else and waiting 5 minutes.

Scrambled Anivia1 votes

instead of dominating your lane. how about you put pressure on everyones lane. make everyone scared when you're mia. get everyone fed. 1 fed team member is easy to deal with. but 3 fed teammates and a support gettin high off asists while jungler is farming up. much harder to deal with.

Kowe The Ewok1 votes

I have to disagree. I just started ranked again and went to Gold II in less than 1 1/2 days. Sadly a leaver ruined the first qualification and a troll support Veigar who ragequitted after dieing ruined the 2nd qualification attempt.

That being said, I still believe it's very possible to get to the elo you belong to. Just keep calm, even if trolls just ruined your latest qualification.

Caezium1 votes

Your KDA isn't that great. You likely give a lot of shutdown gold when you are a carry. (shutdown is 500 gold, someone who is dying a lot can go below 50 gold in value)

Minions are the most consistent way of gaining gold to carry a match. Going for kills purely won't get you anywhere. I understand having a good KDA looks nice but you don't need it to win. Learning how to carry is given and how to be carried(less commonly thought of) is important to actually hitting higher tiers than silver/bronze.

Your "high KDA" isn't really there by what I see. It's more average and nothing spectacular. Try CSing a bit more and eat those big waves of minions that often go unnoticed in bronze. You need gold to hard carry more than kills. Also dodge things. I see so many players not dodge skillshots that can be sidestepped in general. You have to dodge if you plan on hard carrying especially.

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