Yasuo's double crit chance is not the problem

TyroneWatermelon·May 22, 2017·4 votes·829 views

It's the free unecessary giant Armor pen from his Ult that makes him overloaded. He can't be both highest in combat mobility in the game, highest utility for a damage dealer giant burst and sustained damage, and sustain with one lifesteal item. Double crit is enough since he needs to build items, but if he wants to tank shred with his already immense crit he should atleast build Last whisper or Black Cleaver, currently he just gets free armor pen for pressing R.

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KONO RUBICK DAMay 22, 20179 votes

i see

might as well remove:

GP armor pen and true damage yi true damage fiora true damage and %hp damage

they should all buy last whisper and become squishier sounds fair

PermabannedGarenMay 22, 20172 votes

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i see

might as well remove:

GP armor pen and true damage yi true damage fiora true damage and %hp damage

they should all buy last whisper and become squishier sounds fair

This pretty much hit the nail on the head. Literally every DPS-based skirmisher (as opposed to Riven, Ekko, or Jax whose damage is more based around burst damage, and Riven and Ekko actually have shields that scale with their main damage stat to help survive so they can afford a pen item) except Tryndamere (the dude who can press R to not die) have some steroid to shred tanks within their kits. Yasuo's is actually the most gated one since he has to ult to access it, as opposed to Fiora whose true damage is her passive and Yi who merely needs to press E.

Fact of the matter is LW items are fucking awful to build on most melee champs. Wasting an item slot on an item that only really enables you to kill tanks and provides little in the way of squishy killing or survivability on a melee champion who is more easily CC'd and focused down compared to an ADC sucks.

KONO RUBICK DAMay 22, 20171 votes

Tryndamere lacks of tank killing is compensated by his insane hilarious damage, the dude is one of the only champion in the game that gets a crit steroid AND an AD steroid at the same time a crit from IE trynd will remove half of your hp with up to 900 damage unlike any other character, while the dude has a great attack speed additionally like you said, the dude has a 5 sec immortality, he can build last whisper he doesn't care if he is going to die

Jax is outdated and need a hybrid shred like Kayle who got it in her rework, honestly jax is the only skirmisher that tickles tanks

Ekko is meh, not a real skirmisher. he's just an assassin that needs to AA a target few time with his W passive to get them dying. they had no other classes to put him in but skirmisher, but i don't think he's a real skirmisher

Riven on the other hand was not designed to be a skirmisher, originally she fell off in late game and was supposed to be a bruiser Then black cleaver was reworked and since then she doesn't fall off and her win rate keeps increasing with the duration of the game

MORAL OF THE STORY Gangplank Yasuo MasterYi Fiora those dudes cannot teamfight if they build armor pen and become squishier

this board on a design level just does not understand what is the drawback of having 100 range instead of 500

4th Chiming LambMay 22, 20176 votes

Yes, 'free' armor pen. Other examples include: Annie Free stun Bard Free Zhonyas Camille Free shield Ekko Free heals Braum Free knockup Caitlyn Free escape Cassiopeia Free stun Chogath Free silence Corki Free AoE damage Darius Free DOTs Diana Free dashes Fizz Free-wait no, this guy's fucking stupid and I hate him Garen Free silence Khazix Free invisibility

It's almost as if champions have kits that give them edges that other champions don't have! It's almost as if they're...unique!

Best princess EUMay 22, 20175 votes

highest utility?

what about Gangplank ?

almost constant ranged AOE 80% 2 sec duration slow Global 800 aoe slow+nuke with thunderlord

rtbf69774614May 22, 20174 votes

Yeah his R is a bit ridiculous, I also think he needs to get an e nerf, possible putting it at like 5 stacks. And those stacks regenerate when you q and auto. Just to also add in a skill factor, because atm this champion is one of the easiest to play for being a "skilled champ". Also his lifesteal is fucking retarded, and for a "bad" early game just bring fervor and fix the issue xd.

xShiNjiNxMay 22, 20171 votes

You're in bronze and you are saying Yasuo is one of the easiest to play for being 'skilled champ'.. then why arnt u abusing him.. Let me guess, you like being in bronze?

rtbf69774614May 23, 20171 votes

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You're in bronze and you are saying Yasuo is one of the easiest to play for being 'skilled champ'.. then why arnt u abusing him.. Let me guess, you like being in bronze?

Look at my ranked games played this season. I play normals

rtbf69774614May 23, 20171 votes

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You're in bronze and you are saying Yasuo is one of the easiest to play for being 'skilled champ'.. then why arnt u abusing him.. Let me guess, you like being in bronze?

I'd like to see you try and 1v1 me lol

xShiNjiNxMay 23, 20171 votes

Like i'd waste my time on someone crying about Yasuo on lolboards. Please...

xShiNjiNxMay 22, 20173 votes

The boards will never stop bro..

Today its the armor pen on ult Tmro its the passive shield Wednesday its the infinite amount of dashes Thursday its the double crit Friday its the part of his ult that holds him outside of turret range Saturday its the windwall Sunday its the opressive laning phase.

Its annoying and repetitive, i wish people would just learn how to play around a champion instead of crying on the boards for nerfs..

Trash MammaIMay 22, 20173 votes

Aatrox Amumu Alistar Anivia Annie Azir Blitzcrank Braum Caitlyn Camille Cassiopeia Chogath Darius DrMundo Ekko Elise Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Garen Gnar Gragas Heimerdinger Illaoi Irelia JarvanIV Jax Karma Karthus Kayle Kennen LeeSin Leona Lissandra Lulu Malphite Malzahar Maokai MasterYi Mordekaiser Nasus Nautilus Nunu Olaf Pantheon Poppy Quinn Rakan Rammus Renekton Riven Ryze Sejuani Shen Shyvana Singed Skarner TahmKench Taric Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Urgot Vladimir Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yorick The amount of people that can make him completely useless is stupidly high. Why is he still being complained about? I can understand the lee sin hate, graves hate, sorta the ivern hate but the yasuo hate STILL going on..people in this game are just flipping horrible

Stars ShaperMay 22, 20171 votes

It's useless to try and find a problem that is not there.

Yasuo ultimate does really low damage compared to other damage dealing ults and the Bonus Armor Penetration (that only affects armor from masteries/items/runes and not the base one) allowes him to deal damage after menaing that Yasuo needs to stick on that target in order to deal the damage.

legionnaire99May 22, 20171 votes

God maybe if there was an idem. Maybe boots That lower basic attacks by 12%

FooDangMay 22, 20171 votes

If there is a problem, it would be in his passive. Just from buying item 3086 he essentially gets another 800 gold in damage stats. Just by spending 1200 gold on an Item he gets almost 3 kills in gold for damage stats. In not saying he's OP I'm just saying when he's ahead he snowballs hard. When he's behind he stays pretty much even in gold. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying if there is a problem, it's his passive not the Ult.