Why do people still think annie is a support?

Wronglove·Jul 25, 2015·2 votes·3,867 views

Annie does NOTHING to SUPPORT her team or even her adc. Her stun is for her to unload dmg on to the adc. A stun does not classify supporting otherwise might as well take jax to botlane and call him a support cuz he can 5 man stun too. Annie's are known to ks when they "support" as well. If you want to call yourself a botlane mage by all means go ahead, but calling yourself a support is stupid. A support offers heals, buffs, shields. Just because it was played in the LCS and it worked doesnt mean it makes her a support. Picking annie as a "support" is selfish and is just about as much of a support as season 2 nid. DONT even get me started on that topic.

37 Comments

ChargeItDownMidJul 25, 20154 votes

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WrongloveJul 25, 20151 votes

Then she is just a botlane mage by what you just said. NOT a support. For some reason whenever I have an annie the game is close to 100 percent garen*teed lose but if its the enemy team they rofl stomp the lane.

KantanJul 25, 20153 votes

Are you implying that Support is ONLY providing your adc/team with utility (Heals, Shields, etc.)?

Support - "give assistance to, especially financially; enable to function or act."

Meaning, supporting can come in many different ways, Including DAMAGE and CC. Champions like Blitzcrank and Annie can be treated as offensive supporters, meaning they poke or initiate. Those types of champions are vital to the team, since they have the CC and can engage the enemy with them not expecting or the enemy makes a mistake and get caught. Champions like Sona and Lux, however, can be treated as defensive supporters. They will shield/heal your adc/team and will assist the team by cc'ing the enemy. (Snares, Stuns, etc.).

What I'm trying to say is, any champion can support, its just depends on how the player uses that champion in the supporting role. There will be champions best suited not to support, but that doesn't mean they can't.

TL;DR: As long as they contribute to the team, all is good. :v

WrongloveJul 30, 20151 votes

lol lux isnt a support but she CAN support she is a mage that can funtion with zone control but at least lux has skillshots and not instant tibbers 5 man stun for no reason at all

KantanAug 4, 20153 votes

What I am very confused about this is the fact that you, yourself, said that Lux isn't a support, even though YOU stated that champions that can shield other allies are considered supporters and not champions like Annie.

Now before you continue, I advise you think carefully about what you are trying to prove. Right now, everything is unorganized, and you are losing.

WrongloveAug 5, 20151 votes

she doesnt have the hard cc to stop anybody in a hard engage and her shield isnt enough to safe anybody.

KantanAug 5, 20151 votes

You are missing the ENTIRE point of the role "Supporter." Supporting doesn't mean only SPECIFIC champions can support. What I'm saying is that ANY champion can support, but there are champions BETTER SUITED for supporting. Whether they have cc or not, shields or heals, as long as they CONTRIBUTE to the TEAM, it is still considered supporting.

BeatzBoyFTWAug 4, 20151 votes

That is a very Bronzie argument. It's like saying Nautilus's attributes being Tank/Fighter means he can't support at all.

Knight SoIaire Jul 25, 20153 votes

annie isnt a support champion ... you are right

but annie can man up the support role for her team

what you dont understand there is that support is a term that has 2 meanings in lol

support is a champion who's big part of powerbudget is tied to utility that can make his team more effective 2)support is the guy who goes bot with the adc and helps him win the game

being one doesnt mean you need to be another

WrongloveJul 30, 20151 votes

but "support" annie only buys ap items. thats just a gimped role for a mage unless she starts taking kills which isnt supporting

Knight SoIaire Jul 30, 20153 votes

again a support champion is a champion with utility pulls etc a support that goes botlane is a champion who doesnt need to get gold and can keep the adc safe while he farms

annie isnt a support champion but she is played as support for your team because she offers more

she isnt a gimped mage ... she is a support of your team also where is it written that a champion is only allowed to go botlane when he buy support items we dont even have a class named support items in our shop

kJsJul 25, 20152 votes

She provides very strong CC for her team all game around. Tibbers has a really large hitbox and does substantial AoE DoT even when not fed. She has really good engage with Flash + Ult.

One reason why she is played in bottom lane as "support" rather than mid lane as a mage is because of her relatively low range. I still think more people should play Annie mid lane because I think it's still viable with the amount of damage she can dish out but her CC is just so strong that it fits in so well with a support role.

WrongloveJul 25, 20151 votes

Most champs with a good engage have great engage with flash ult. The fact that she can build "support" and flash ult the enemy adc 100-0 him with 2 spells is ridiculous. Over all she needs a rework. I forget where I saw the thread but instead of stuns she applies a fear after 3 spells land and if tibbers is up they are in fear of him instead of annie and auto attacks refresh the fear cd and what not.

WrongloveJul 25, 20152 votes

You guys use cc as a point for an argument but its unreliable in extended fights and cc does NOT make a champion a support. Just take gnar botlane cuz passive procs and manaless harass along with cc at every point in the game.

ThairnJul 25, 20156 votes

http://i.gyazo.com/62ee3e2c4b2a54b11e62a29df0667a60.png Okay.

WrongloveJul 30, 20151 votes

see its amazing

WrongloveJul 25, 20152 votes

And i get downvoted by all the selfish people who play solely annie "support"

AtheosisXJul 25, 20158 votes

No, you are getting downvoted because you don't understand the various styles of supports that are viable.

ThairnJul 25, 20154 votes

She's a damage support who has utility, like Karma, Lux, Fiddlesticks, Orianna, Zilean, and Syndra.

creatureplexMar 16, 20181 votes

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She's a damage support who has utility, like Karma, Lux, Fiddlesticks, Orianna, Zilean, and Syndra.

Except every single one of those champions is a support second catefory, Karma is a mage, support, Lux is a mage support, Fiddlesticks is a mage support, Orianna is a mage support, Zilean is a support mage and shouldn't be in this group, Syndra is a mage support, Annie is a mage that's it, I agree with the op.

creatureplexMar 16, 20181 votes

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Except every single one of those champions is a support second catefory, Karma is a mage, support, Lux is a mage support, Fiddlesticks is a mage support, Orianna is a mage support, Zilean is a support mage and shouldn't be in this group, Syndra is a mage support, Annie is a mage that's it, I agree with the op.

Ntm Annie stun isn't something she can use always, she has to charge it which means she has to waste her abilities on the minions or ge5t to close to an enemy champion to hit abilities she isn't even a threat till level 6 and even then she's kind of cheese

creatureplexApr 23, 20191 votes

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She's a damage support who has utility, like Karma, Lux, Fiddlesticks, Orianna, Zilean, and Syndra.

Except every champion you just mention are supports like legit supports. Karma has a shield a snare a movement speed buff and a slow. Lux double snare aoe slow and a shield fiddlesticks ape silence and a fear orianna ape slow suck in and a shield zilean exp boost speed boost stun and a revive syndra stun knockback and have to look at her kit again but yeah she had several supportive abilities annie does not she is a mage with a conditional stun which could be a Game changer but if stun is burned incorrectly she can't do anything to protect her team. Every actual support inn this game have several supportive abilities to either enhance in terms of a buff or control a team fight.

INoSc0pedJFKAug 4, 20151 votes

What makes you think she's not a support? This is the same as saying Naut isn't a support. He does not help his carry in ANY way, BUT all of his abilities have a delay. On the other hand, Annie's stun is COMPLETELY INSTANT. If you're saying this does not have any effect in team fights or laning phase, please uninstall League of Legends right now.

WrongloveAug 5, 20151 votes

he has 4 different ccs to help peel

Dr PoroJul 25, 20152 votes

Blitzcrank Leona Nautilus we are no supports?

lB2kGRlc8yJul 25, 20152 votes

They say support but don't mean support, they're just not sticking to the adc supp bot meta that is strictly enforced by riot (anyone who makes that combination suffer is nerfed into oblivion).

shadecrapperJul 25, 20152 votes

Annie can suport because she can easily catch people out, has a really good ingage, and has enough raw damage to make up for her not giving shields/heals/stupid amounts of cc/ect. The lvl 6 power spike

WrongloveJul 30, 20151 votes

see raw dmg isnt supporting thats being what a mage would do.

SasogwaJul 25, 20152 votes

Ofc, people play Annie in the LCS because they are selfish and want to KS their adcs... Kappa.

ThairnJul 25, 20151 votes

People will play Annie there because her stun is reliable and comes out instantly. Jax has to get in Melee range and can miss his stun completely, AND he needs to Q or walk up to melee range. Annie can just charge the stun and Q you. It's like Taric's E, with slightly more range, AND she can choose to drop a bear on them (or W is she's really close) for a 5 man stun instead.

People will always take a Mage with a stun bottom lane in low Elo. It's more reliable because you never know what kind of ADC or Jungler you will have. It's self-reliance over teamwork, which is fair to say is very lacking in low rankings.

siilentdeathJul 25, 20151 votes

as long as the player using annie as a support dosent feed or refuse to buy wards im ok with it. if that players takes the kills on top refusing to ward then i just build my adc with a sightstone and buy support type items that reduce cds. what gets me mad is when u get a support that say XinZhao or Gangplank is a legit support champ. then they proceed to run no setups for u to get kills or take them for themselves. the cherry on top is when u adc,top, and middle still open.