Ali needs Ability CD reduction

p3tm4ster·Jul 22, 2019·1 votes·1,010 views

Alistar is a great champ when it comes to knocking people around and even locking down a few, but the sad truth of the matter is his Cooldowns are entirely too long. Endgame his shortest cooldown is 6 seconds, now that might be fine for an engage or a knockback but when it comes to him being a meaningful champion after the engage it renders him useless. He becomes the worst champion in the game simply because he doesn't have the same CDs as every other champ who's cooldowns are within the 3-4 sec range. And bare in mind while their CD's might be shorter it would be fine if he did damage that whole time, but he doesn't. Even if you build him pure damage he still does way less damage than most champions. Which means right now as he stands he's literally a stunner and punching bag.

13 Comments

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

you mean urf alistar? where your forced to afk while the enemy team piles on you.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

Ok let's talk about this reasonably. His entire combination is this W to go in which isn't a stun just a knockback, Q which is a stun but has to be done within a inch away of him, then E which does the most minimal of all damage and which you have to be in range of for no less than 4 seconds in order to even be ABLE to stun, at which point you actually have to auto attack them to get the stun off and then.... nothing. He has no damage, he has no abilities that would enable him to escape, he has R which makes him armor up and removes debuffs from him but after that he has no abilities with which to do anything with because remember this entire combo is still on CD from him engaging. So essentially you have a champ who's amazing at engaging and then... nothing.

Now it would be one thing if throughout his engage he took of 50-70% of your life, that I would understand, he would do a reasonable amount of damage in a very short duration. But that's not what happens, after doing his entire combo you take off maybe 30%, so to put it in further perspective he would have to do his entire combo 3x to kill a champion. That doesn't seem insane to you? And all of this is under the assumption that champion hes fighting has no regen abilities at all and won't kill him in the meantime(which 99% if them could).

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

now imagine spear of shojin thats where it URF part comes from. btw imo i suggested he needs a better ultimate instead of basically in the middle of the enemy team i mean sure he has a ultimate but why should the enemy team attack him if he uses all his attacks since his ultimate stops damage. i want him to reduce his damage reduction but get back his AD buff he had years ago.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

YES! Exactly! He needs to fundamentally change, CD reduction is one way, a different ultimate is another. But the bottom line is he has to change, right now it's not even that he's out of meta, it's that he's a completely none viable champion endgame.

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

actually he is viable endgame due to league of oneshots happening the only thing stopping him from being active is his LONG cooldowns. hes just boring to play after you used your abilities. its pretty much see that enemy? is he a threat W him away. see that enemy is he wide open press W/Q/E YOU WIN. single target wise. he needs more threat priority i mean if hes in the middle of my team why should i even THINK of targetting him if he has no damage threat.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

But that's the whole thing, once you W that enemy away now you have no other abilities which move you anywhere, so now you're a sitting duck. Especially if that enemy is at range, then you're screwed because now not only do you have to outrun the damage but you have no way of really doing anything else until you W CD is up again.

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

i know i hate that fact where the enemy can basically ignore/out move speed you after your W. his abilities feel so underwhelming.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

Exactly, so I'm saying we just adjust his CD's to be more like everyone elses, so he can re-engage afterward, because right now he engages and he has to run out, and that's literally the end of his options, because him staying in the fight will only result in him dying.

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

i even made a post about his ult basically about doing nothing that its not really a ultimate its just a "thing" that happens.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

I agree, if this were any other champ everyone would already be screaming how useless they are.

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

if i ever play alistar again (mainly top) i would go full AD/hp. thats how you use a real ultimate. screw ap scalings AD is where its at lel. maybe hail of blades on him so i dont have to build attack speed.

p3tm4sterJul 22, 20191 votes

I think that's a very smart idea.

xDogMeatxJul 22, 20191 votes

yeah if im forced to maybe i would do that 'cough cough' zed top meta.