Please fix Twitch's ult.

sayhisam1·1/4/2015, 7:29:20 PM·24 votes·2,652 views

Currently, Twitch's Ult is as follows: ACTIVE: For 7 seconds, Twitch gains bonus attack damage and 300 bonus attack range (850 total range). ATTACK DAMAGE: 20 / 28 / 36 Additionally, each of his basic attacks will pierce enemies in an 850 length line, with each unit struck reducing the attack's damage by 20% down to a minimum of 40% damage.

Twitch's ult is fine, except for the last part: "with each unit struck reducing the attack's damage by 20% down to a minimum of 40% damage.". The reason why is because this effect happens when shooting creeps.

Why is this an issue, you may ask? Well, think about it this way: If the enemy adc sits in their creep wave, Twitch's ult is practically useless to kill them, since the damage on each of Twitch's AAs to the enemy ADC is 40% of the normal, if the enemy adc is behind atleast 3 creeps, even if twitch is ahead. This effectively ruins twitch's level 6 trading, something which he needs now more than ever, considering the hard nerfs to his early game.

I suggest a change from "with each unit struck reducing the attack's damage by 20% down to a minimum of 40% damage" to "with each unit struck reducing the attack's damage by 20%(10% if unit is a minion)down to a minimum of 40% damage". This helps make the problem a little bit better, since if there are 3 creeps, twitch is not doing 40% damage to the enemy ADC, but is instead doing 70% of his damage. This wouldn't change Twitch's teamfighting at all, just his laning.

EDIT: Link to the Reddit Post for more visibility http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2rbn6f/slight_change_to_twitchs_ult_please/

31 Comments

EndlessSorcerer1/4/2015, 8:50:13 PM4 votes

It would be nice if he could actually autoattack the inhibitors and nexus while using his ultimate as well. Or did they fix that bug already?

astralwit1/4/2015, 8:44:07 PM3 votes

That's a good point. The damage reduction exists to make his team fights less OP vs champs. It shouldn't punish you in laning. I think that would help even though I doubt it's enough. He currently has the lowest win rate of any ADC at every ELO I checked.

Droogzy1/4/2015, 9:00:18 PM2 votes

Nope haven't fixed it yet.

Dragonilic1/24/2015, 5:50:20 PM2 votes

I believe you have quite a valid point. Twitch's laning phase can be hard.

IceKingChernobog1/4/2015, 10:42:21 PM2 votes

I would love for his ult to be fixed and probally buffed, but it won't happened because according to riot immobile non flash champs are not aloud to be popular. If he was to get that, he'll just probably get a shit load of nerfs along with it

sayhisam11/18/2015, 3:10:22 PM1 votes

I would like for Riot to give some thoughts on this.

Matezoide1/24/2015, 5:54:13 PM1 votes

At least make it so he can hit the enemy Nexus.

Centuros1/24/2015, 6:34:56 PM1 votes

Perhaps the unit you are targeting should take full damage? That gives him an easy way to not deal reduced damage to a single champion just because there are minions in the way.

AsReelAsItGets8/9/2015, 8:56:49 AM1 votes

I can only hope that Riot will Give Twitch a revamp on him. At least two of his spells upon their choosing and make them feel less frustrating for players like my self who still enjoy playing him.

Sohleks1/4/2015, 10:53:18 PM1 votes

OK idea. Wouldn't change much since either way shooting through those creeps is a poor use of the ult. At least as of now. Could change with this...

Onegarion1/5/2015, 11:08:19 AM1 votes

So buff him so his Ult isn't like every other ability that acts in the EXACT SAME WAY. Varus Q, Cait Q, Sivir Q. All have the degrading damage. No reason twitch should get special treatment even if it is for an ult.

Ulquiorra9951/5/2015, 1:22:45 PM1 votes

Because really, name me ONE another ADC, no... ONE any role champion who gets screwed by activating his steroid to trade in lane. Made much worse by the fact that said steroid is an ULTIMATE.

Also, if you don't want to fix his ult dealing zero damage to buildings, can it at least be added to tooltip? Y'know, for clarity? I've seen games lost because Twitch thought he could take a nexus with some extra juice from his R.

sayhisam11/14/2015, 2:40:19 PM1 votes

With the new meta of Graves everywhere, this kind of buff is needed even more. Graves hard counters Twitch, since Twitch's passive activates Graves' passive, basically giving Graves 10 free passive stacks whenever Twitch AA him once. Right now, there is no way to win a Twitch vs Graves lane, but with my proposed ultimate changes, Twitch might get a chance to sit further back in lane and trade with his ultimate, rather than being 2 shotted by Graves every time he has to duel him, since Twitch needs to be closer to do damage to Graves in lane due to creeps.