62.1 BASE AD on a range champion with huge Mobility

Merkel x Tsipras··17 votes·1,913 views

Kalista Base Damage: 62.92 from 57.5 Base Attack Speed increased -0.1 (.658) from -0.05 (.694)

Enjoy your new top lane you pick melee champion? because you think that you will have a good AD to attack her and deal damage to her? well nope now the ADC have better AD than you and they attack with 400 more range

YeahHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BALANCE

Edit: its actually 63 (62.92) Yeah you heard it an adc with the higher base AD in the game loool

35 Comments

EndlessSorcerer20 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/1029-pbe-update.html

Damage Per Level: 2.91 from 3.5 Attack Speed Per Level: 2.8 from 3.3

Jump distance scales with boot tier (as live), jump speed now only scales with AS/Slows (is slower early game but scales up)."

Yeah, feel free to ignore every other change and only list the stats which were buffed.

I'm sure that's going to convince people.

Merkel x Tsipras4 votes

oh yeah at lvl 18 she would have like 7 less ad....man that so sad for her

Because you know the lane is all about the lvl 18 and sure the game is all about the lvl 18 and not about the early lvls

Yeah mate that would hurt her alot..i mean i feel sad for her now...what a poor champion to hit with 63 base ad at lvl 1 while melee champs only hit with 55 and 50

Delioth2 votes

What you are saying may be true, but you have something everyone's been asking for:

Her jumps are now actually slowed with slows.

Read.

FantasySniper1 votes

[{quoted}](name=19902013RIP Kira,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mgMB4lhW,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-10-29T20:59:39.270+0000) Because you know the lane is all about the lvl 18

FantasySniper1 votes

Um, to clarify for everyone: The speed of her jump is unaffected by boot tier. The distance is what changes. This means that now she shouldn't be jumping at ridiculous speeds after getting Greaves - so she doesn't cover less distance, just less distance with the same amount of time.

ProfDrDeath13 votes

Do I need to remind you that Kalista's autos only scale 0.9 with AD? And that value is then actually reasonable?

Merkel x Tsipras6 votes

Hmmm she got that nerf because she was BROKEN in the first place with her current base AD

And now riot buff even more her Base AD so where this would lead?

I let you answer us

Annoxis8 votes

Don't forget that most AD item used for marksmen are getting nerfed by 15 AD most of the time .

Merkel x Tsipras2 votes

But their price got lower (Plus bruiser items would be better for them now too)

Plus Armor once again got destroyed

So overall they get a buff

If you do all the math combined from all the new stuff

CreationFlaw1 votes

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But their price got lower (Plus bruiser items would be better for them now too)

Plus Armor once again got destroyed

So overall they get a buff

If you do all the math combined from all the new stuff

I'm happy tho. Quinn is a mid laner now <3

Dunkrius2g1 votes

which has been nerfed to the ground and as her compensation, a homeguard that costs mana.

HentRex1 votes

Season 6 will probably have at least some form of duo mid, with the new mob in baron pit.

Dunkrius2g2 votes

Ima take back my words. Quinn will be good. tested her out. Only thing that worries me is how itll be to lane as her.

HentRex1 votes

Does the "Vulnerable" passive problems still exist? You know like seeing Valor proc someone you are mid dash to, Or proc right after you aa so your aa doesn't consume the mark and forces you to aa a second time? Love that Quinn received some attention though.

Dunkrius2g1 votes

You will have to aa again to consume the mark. they still havent fixed her tiny bugs like her aa animation. It is way easier to cancel. and honestly, .79 attack speed is like a .60 to me.

junglerboy167 votes

You're forgetting the biggest sleeper ADC nerf out there: LW only penetrates bonus armor now.

Crett6 votes

Her autos deal 10% less damage, so it's actually 56 AD

Not that I don't hate Kalista

Sypher The Poro3 votes

Don't forget, Kalista's passive causes her auto attacks to only do 90% of her total damage. With 63 AD, her autos only do 57 damage per hit.

Jamaree2 votes

The only thing I'm seeing about Kalista are a change to her AS and a nerf to her passive, where are you seeing this AD increase?

http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/N7VZrAws-smaller-522-marksmen-changes-pbe-feedback-thread

Ohhhh, way at the bottom, odd, didn't pop at first, honestly, it was never the damage of her AAs that did anything or annoyed me, it is her passive, which is getting nerfed, and her E.

Merkel x Tsipras1 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/1029-pbe-update.html i send you the link~! In the post you send the rioter havent put any of the new base AD values in any adc that why he call it "a smaller" the overall changes are on PBE atm

Merkel x Tsipras1 votes

meh her passive is getting nerfed for a bit for early game but it scale to even better than it is now later on....

So pretty much riot buff her base AD her early trades and they micro nerf her passive and they make her passive even better later on because you know that passive really neded a buff later on...according to riot logic

Plus all the new buffs on ADC items and her core item (Hurricane) and all the armor nerfs

Yeah it would be a sad season

Jamaree2 votes

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meh her passive is getting nerfed for a bit for early game but it scale to even better than it is now later on....

So pretty much riot buff her base AD her early trades and they micro nerf her passive and they make her passive even better later on because you know that passive really neded a buff later on...according to riot logic

Plus all the new buffs on ADC items and her core item (Hurricane) and all the armor nerfs

Yeah it would be a sad season

shrug Will have to wait and see and honestly, her AAs are where her damage comes from, her early game got better, late game got worst, so meph.

Altricad2 votes

NOTE:

Kalista's hop-speed was ALWAYS affected by slows

not JUST attack-speed slows, but also MOVEMENT speed slows

Hilarious how people in gameplay and balance think that riot listing something something they "forgot" to mention is a nerf

Then again, riot does this in places where haters don't look in, like Fizz Q getting stealth nerfed so that dashing out prevents damage from being applied

MasterYi Q cd not being reduced by double-strike ( and sated devourer not giving him double strike removed from pbe)

Also, her core item item 3085 is actually getting nerfed stat-wise Kalista doesn't build crit, because it is mathematically not efficent due to 90% ad scaling

also, attack speed per level REDUCED ( LEARN TO READ, THIS MEANS SHE HAS LESS ATTACK SPEED after 5 levels)

tldr: go play kalista yourself and climb yourself to diamond if you think she's op instead of btching about a measly 6 AD when her scalings are terrible sht when compared to other adcs

Sasogwa1 votes

WTFFFFF Is this real or fake?

Merkel x Tsipras1 votes

Go pbe boy and enjoy the new season it would sure be "fun"

Jamaree1 votes

Where was this written?

Merkel x Tsipras1 votes

PBE and there is a link that take you to boards where a riot have all the new changes

Jamaree1 votes

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PBE and there is a link that take you to boards where a riot have all the new changes

Mind showing me a link, can't seem to find it.

KayleeT1 votes

Kalista is garbage right now, it doesn't matter at all

Gubaguy1 votes

Keep in mind she only does 90% of her AD as damage, so...

Karn Bishop1 votes

This is without context, if you look at all her numbers bruisers will still beat her out, especially with the slow change.

pWasHere1 votes

Putting Kalista in a solo lane is a gigantic misuse of the champ.

TASTE THE SAND1 votes

fun fact: maokai still has the highest base ad at 63.5

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