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@Riot Can Aatrox Players get some love?

Masked Pariah··5 votes·1,021 views

It feels bad when your favorite champion that you bought all the skins for, taking the time to main, and to play over 300+games each season but he is never good because he is never shown any REAL love. I feel that Riot has favoritism to their champions and at the bottom of the bottom is Aatrox. Urgot has got more buffs than Aatrox and Urgot was actually good during the season LCS midlaners played him mid. Aatrox has never been good since the nerf they did to him in early season 3!

RIOT ASYRITE HAS SAID THIS ABOUT ZED "At the time we were looking to give him more play making ability since that's a thing that a lot of players identify him with. Unfortunately, through other itemization changes and such, that playmaking ability has just gotten easier kind of across the board of experience levels. I want to try and find a way to maintain Zed's ability to do the stuff he wants to, but you have to invest time into mastering him and "doing it right". I want to move away from any time you enter a game with Zed at ANY skill level you feel like they'll be able to just erase you from the game. The changes I have going out for tomorrow may appear drastic, but I'm still looking at heavy iteration for tomorrow, so they won't be final numbers. I'm trying to be really sensitive since I want to try my best to solve two problems. 1) I don't want Zed players to feel like they can't even play their champion anymore 2) I want the changes to lower the frustration players experience when playing against despite his power levels actually being within reason.

TL,DR: players love this champion and even though he is too strong at the moment we are going to reward a skill zed player, but nerf the bad zed players.

WHY CANT WE DO THAT TO AATROX? As Aatrox it is clear that you gotta try 3x harder than other champions just to pull off the same amount of impact in the game! All I am asking is that Riot would give small buffs to Aatrox so he like stated above 1. Still Playable and 2.Not frustrating to play or play against!

here are my ideas riot could use to buff Aatrox (I understand how to make Aatrox good without being op perma ban due to my 500+ game experiences.) Q: Give it a Reksai knock up that rewards hitting the middle of the knock up but still knocks up if you hit the edge W: Blood Price should activate as a spell when used (sheen proc) and/or higher BONUS AD RATIOS on heal (making him heal more building AD) E: Just needs more utility so give it a Attack Speed Slow R: (Riot has talked about this and I agree it could help him out and give him more diversity than other champions) AOE Fear like Hecarim

(if I gotta I will post everyday to make sure Riot gives Aatrox a fair chance like any other champion)

14 Comments

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

Because Aatrox needs a rework. Because all Aatrox is , is a ball of stats, there is no reason to pick him over anyone else, unless he's massively OP.

He basically wins any and every fight just for having better stats, not much out play potential on him, you just right click.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-26T01:43:59.609+0000)

Because Aatrox needs a rework. Because all Aatrox is , is a ball of stats, there is no reason to pick him over anyone else, unless he's massively OP.

He basically wins any and every fight just for having better stats, not much out play potential on him, you just right click.

if you would of read what I post and before downvoting it you will see I am asking for utility buffs. Nothing about numbers. The point with Aatrox is yes he has a knock up, a slow, lifesteal, and a AOE ultimate but why pick him when other champions have what he has but better and more reliable. Malph and Mao have better lockdown, vlad and trundle have better sustain, irelia and jax have better dueling potential, and nasus and rumble have better slows. Aatrox needs something to make him unique nothing about numbers. Its just the kits interactions.

also urgot needed a rework but they buffed him! They still buff champions who need reworks so they are at least playable.

also Aatrox is at the bottom of the rework kit and I dont wanna wait 2-3 years for a rework when he has been under performing for the last 3 years as well.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

Utility buffs make him stronger, his ball of stats are already pretty decent, if you got utility be be able to utilize those balls of stats better, then he'd be much stronger, its like giving mordekaiser CC.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:05:07.385+0000)

Utility buffs make him stronger, his ball of stats are already pretty decent, if you got utility be be able to utilize those balls of stats better, then he'd be much stronger, its like giving mordekaiser CC.

he has utility unlike morde except its really shitty and generic and does not give him a theme or a reason to pick him over any other champion. Also numbers are not everything. If riot gave him better numbers than he simply would not be fun to play. Its like this.

Who gives more enjoyment to play. Playing and Tryndamere or Bard? Bard should be better because his kit has more to interact with and makes him damn enjoyable.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

And thats exactly why Aatrox needs a rework, a ball of stats who has nothign going for him unless his ball of stats is OP as shit.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:15:51.307+0000)

And thats exactly why Aatrox needs a rework, a ball of stats who has nothign going for him unless his ball of stats is OP as shit.

I dont think you understand its not stats...... he just needs a bit of UMPH in his kit. Adding to it.

If something is broken you dont throw it away and buy a new one. You fix it.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:05:07.385+0000)

Utility buffs make him stronger, his ball of stats are already pretty decent, if you got utility be be able to utilize those balls of stats better, then he'd be much stronger, its like giving mordekaiser CC.

my last comment is do you think its fair to have a champion unviable for 3 full seasons who has to work harder than other champions? Is it sad that people who love this champion or saw potential in him cant play him? Heck he had most viewed champion spotlight! Sadly he was lack luster and Riot did nothing... unlike other champions Aatrox never lived in a game that favors him once. Is it fair to show favoritism to one champ than the other. Why is it fair that Zed gets to always be strong because the players who main him love him but the players who main Aatrox never get their word out? I feel its not fair and there are many other people who main Aatrox and probably more who want to play him but just feel its not worth their time. I say give Aatrox a chance.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

Well according to stats, Aatrox fairs well around a 51% win rate, which has been such for years since his release when he was OP as shit.

I don't think Aatrox is weak, and suffers more from having an uninteresting/fun kit, which is why he isn't played often (Example Galio and Urgot).

Which is why he needs a rework :l. I don't think its "fair" that he hasn't gotten one yet, but there are other champions in need of one more, though I suspect aatrox may got a rework at the end of the year since Riot is looking into another class rework and the two contenders are either Dive fighters (which is aatrox) or Assassins.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:21:48.474+0000)

Well according to stats, Aatrox fairs well around a 51% win rate, which has been such for years since his release when he was OP as shit.

I don't think Aatrox is weak, and suffers more from having an uninteresting/fun kit, which is why he isn't played often (Example Galio and Urgot).

Which is why he needs a rework :l.

winrate is not everything. look at the play percentage, the damage done, the amount of cc he has use, the damage taken, his kills, his assist, his deaths! Its the impact he makes! sure there is a 51% winrate but its because Aatrox mains play him and that through out every patch its below a .9% playrate. It would be good if he had a 4-5% playrate and a 51% winrate but when it is below 1% then winrate means nothing.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

I suppose, but I've played Aatrox a but, while it does take some work, I dont' see him as being weak my build is generally:

item 3068 item 3748 item 3153 item 3065 item 3742 item 3111

And I seem to do very well if not often carry, but besides that he may be a bit on the weak side, so maybe some oomph to make it easier to do well with him, but as for what you can give I'm not sure, maybe make his Q have a slightly lower delay?

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:31:39.740+0000)

I suppose, but I've played Aatrox a but, while it does take some work, I dont' see him as being weak my build is generally:

item 3068 item 3748 item 3153 item 3065 item 3742 item 3111

And I seem to do very well if not often carry, but besides that he may be a bit on the weak side, so maybe some oomph to make it easier to do well with him, but as for what you can give I'm not sure, maybe make his Q have a slightly lower delay?

See? All i am asking for is some quality of life buffs to make him playable. I dont care if he is not flavor of the month but I want to play him without my team complaining that I didnt pick someone else. I want him to have the same feel where he is viable even if he is not popular like Irelia's, Gnar, Wukong, etc.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:21:48.474+0000)

Well according to stats, Aatrox fairs well around a 51% win rate, which has been such for years since his release when he was OP as shit.

I don't think Aatrox is weak, and suffers more from having an uninteresting/fun kit, which is why he isn't played often (Example Galio and Urgot).

Which is why he needs a rework :l. I don't think its "fair" that he hasn't gotten one yet, but there are other champions in need of one more, though I suspect aatrox may got a rework at the end of the year since Riot is looking into another class rework and the two contenders are either Dive fighters (which is aatrox) or Assassins.

http://champion.gg/champion/Aatrox use this and look at Aatrox's stats compared to other champions (btw deaths may look good but higher the number is not good.)

EDIT: if you got to overall position the only people he passes is UNCONVENTIONAL TOP LANERS, and there even some UNCONVENTIONAL TOP LANERS that pass him.

Masked Pariah1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Guy Fox Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mc3tEz86,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-26T01:43:59.609+0000)

Because Aatrox needs a rework. Because all Aatrox is , is a ball of stats, there is no reason to pick him over anyone else, unless he's massively OP.

He basically wins any and every fight just for having better stats, not much out play potential on him, you just right click.

Also to the state meant he just right clicks. He has a knock up where you gotta hit the middle to be effective and a skill shot with slow missile speed and gets NARROWER the further it goes! He is really easy. Its not like he scales into killing himself aswell, oh wait he does....

WeedTits1 votes

He won't be buffed, he needs a rework. He's in the same state Vlad was in pre-rework, you can't make him competitively viable without making him broken and dumb as shit. Buffs would cause him to have a ridiculously safe laning phase to the point that he could never lose lane, only go even, and occasionally win it. This is bad for the game. Sustain based champions are something Riot is actively trying to remove from the game. Nobody likes farming for 20 minutes.

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