Tired of Syndra in Worlds
< Level six Syndra blows up a champ. < Commentators: "WOW THAT DAMAGE! WHAT A GREAT COMBO!"
No. It's not a hard combo. It's a ridiculous 100 to 0 that requires just a bit of practice to pull off.
Nerf please.
< Level six Syndra blows up a champ. < Commentators: "WOW THAT DAMAGE! WHAT A GREAT COMBO!"
No. It's not a hard combo. It's a ridiculous 100 to 0 that requires just a bit of practice to pull off.
Nerf please.
Another case of "No one compains about this champ until pros play them." Syndra has been this strong forever and no one complained, but low and behold, worlds comes around and "Nerf Syndra."
Syndra has consistently had an average winrate of less than 50% for more than a few patches. She barely broke it in 6.18 (50.12%) and then it dropped back down and was less than 50% for basically every patch before that. Her freaking level 1 Q has less base damage than her auto attacks.
People are getting the illusion that Syndra is OP, but in reality, it's just that none of the currently popular mid laners counter Syndra. It's actually the other way around; Syndra counters most of the currently popular mid laners on the worlds stage. The only thing they've picked against Syndra really at worlds is Vlad and Viktor. Vlad doesn't "beat" Syndra, he is mainly picked because it is hard for Syndra to kill him because he builds Spirit Visage early. Viktor vs Syndra is a skill matchup. If Syndra stuns Viktor, he's dead. If Viktor dodges the stun, he can blow Syndra up. Viktors are running cleanse to give them the advantage in that match up.
None of the champions that beat Syndra are currently popular on the professional stage. That is all it is. It's also the reason you see teams first picking her. They know that none of the top tier mid laners on the worlds stage counter her, so unless a team brings out some niche pick, it is fairly safe to first pick her.
Another case of "No one compains about this champ until pros play them." Syndra has been this strong forever and no one complained, but low and behold, worlds comes around and "Nerf Syndra."
Syndra has consistently had an average winrate of less than 50% for more than a few patches. She barely broke it in 6.18 (50.12%) and then it dropped back down and was less than 50% for basically every patch before that. Her freaking level 1 Q has less base damage than her auto attacks.
People are getting the illusion that Syndra is OP, but in reality, it's just that none of the currently popular mid laners counter Syndra. It's actually the other way around; Syndra counters most of the currently popular mid laners on the worlds stage. The only thing they've picked against Syndra really at worlds is Vlad and Viktor. Vlad doesn't "beat" Syndra, he is mainly picked because it is hard for Syndra to kill him because he builds Spirit Visage early. Viktor vs Syndra is a skill matchup. If Syndra stuns Viktor, he's dead. If Viktor dodges the stun, he can blow Syndra up. Viktors are running cleanse to give them the advantage in that match up.
None of the champions that beat Syndra are currently popular on the professional stage. That is all it is. It's also the reason you see teams first picking her. They know that none of the top tier mid laners on the worlds stage counter her, so unless a team brings out some niche pick, it is fairly safe to first pick her.
I've been banning her since her buffs after 6.9
Another case of "No one compains about this champ until pros play them." Syndra has been this strong forever and no one complained, but low and behold, worlds comes around and "Nerf Syndra."
It reminds me how Hecarim was all, but forgotten in Season 3. Then he go NERFED and everybody was reminded he exists, and suddenly became pick-or-ban.
People are getting the illusion that Syndra is OP, but in reality, it's just that none of the currently popular mid laners counter Syndra.
And it's true. If pros were to pick, say, Zed_(like they were doing in the past 2 seasons)_ or Talon, there would be no Syndra.
Actually it's the same as it was in Season 3/4 when LeBlanc was pick-or-ban. Syndra was being picked back then, because not only she provided more utility, but also dumpstered LeBlanc in lane.
this is why i hate pro play and don't watch anymore. There are never any real counter picks it's "who are they picking? oh syndra... let me just check my list of lcs approved champs.... annnnd none of the 4 mids counter her.... bummer not like we can pick ANOTHER FREAKING CHAMP LIKE
etc..."

yeah but atleast his cc is easy to dodge with a mobile champion, and atleast he has to farm for a 100-0
yeah but atleast his cc is easy to dodge with a mobile champion, and atleast he has to farm for a 100-0
I play veigar and I can easily confirm that he doesn't need that much farm to 100-0
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I play veigar and I can easily confirm that he doesn't need that much farm to 100-0
traitor
veigar ult is point and click. but it sclaes with misisng hp. syndra ult will kill any squhsie from around 70-80% hp. its bullshit.
veigar ult is point and click. but it sclaes with misisng hp. syndra ult will kill any squhsie from around 70-80% hp. its bullshit.
lmfao ive oneshot people from full with veigars ult despite it being an execute
I'm surprised your FEK avatar isn't a gif D:
what a surprise, i was never oneshoted by veigar's R as a otp jhin player.
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lmfao ive oneshot people from full with veigars ult despite it being an execute
Admitting the guy has no MR whatsoever and u penetrate his base MR to 0 ; let's say he is squishy and has 1500 HP (aka Best case scenario ever) you still need 1567 AP
Yes. But Syndra's ult barely does anything to tanks with MR while literally anyone in the damn game quivers in fear at 50% hp near a competent veigar.
Is it not easy to dodge Syndra's CC with mobile champions? It has a reasonable delay on it.
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Veigar is straight up garbage for competitive. His laning phase is just too exploitable.
its basically whoever can stun who, usually as Syndra i use r then e to make my stun harder to dodge due to the width the spheres cover.
Please dont nerf syndra, just because some bronze elo rere watched worlds and all of a sudden sees some amazing damage. It actually takes some good positioning, skill shots and guesstimiation to land all of syndras combos. Her ults is her saving graces, its like a reward for actually hitting all your skill shots. Nerfing is never the answer, improve your own skills and find counters before you just bring out the stupid bat that brakes and ruins good champions.
100 to 0? She's a burst/pick mage. Working as intended. No nerf needed.
She's not overpowered. She's just meta because no other meta mids counter her and her pick potential is high. She has clear weaknesses and falls off lategame.
she falls of late? how?
she falls of late? how?
If any AD builds maw she's near worthless against them. Downvote me all you want but her burst combo is easily stopped by Maw and any other shields/ zhonyas. If you're not afraid of her burst and more afraid of her stun picks? Build a QSS. She's also immobile and still super squishy late.
http://na.op.gg/champion/syndra/statistics/mid http://champion.gg/champion/Syndra
3 tank composition is hard for yoloqueue Syndras to work against late game with enough gold, because 3/5ths of the team can just tank your ultimate.
3 tank composition is hard for yoloqueue Syndras to work against late game with enough gold, because 3/5ths of the team can just tank your ultimate.
So then you build
and save your ult for squishies.
Syndra's lategame is pretty good.
isn't some god item that makes you immune to every tank/fighter in the game.
am tied of syndra in solo queue
i mean
can 100-0 one person but
can 100-0 your whole team
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i mean
can 100-0 one person but
can 100-0 your whole team
Annie doesn't 100-0 a whole team unless she's absurdly fed, and they have to be dumb enough to let a bunch of people get caught by a tibbers.
Syndra's ult does well over half of someone's health at level 6 with a doran's ring and very little setup. Her ult actually one shots people on it's own, from pretty early on in the game.
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Annie doesn't 100-0 a whole team unless she's absurdly fed, and they have to be dumb enough to let a bunch of people get caught by a tibbers.
Syndra's ult does well over half of someone's health at level 6 with a doran's ring and very little setup. Her ult actually one shots people on it's own, from pretty early on in the game.
I'm in bronze, we got the dumb people and someone being absurdly fed covered xD
Her ult actually one shots people on it's own, from pretty early on in the game.
On it's own, you say?
Minimum Damage: 270 / 405 / 540 (+ 60% AP)
Ri---ight.
Syndra R requires set up mate. is not just Press R to win as with many other champs R. also it has a casting time. in which you can busted cause Syndra is a a glass cannon
You could also blow her up with an assassin or equally bursty mage

ok riot will nerf her just because YOU dont want to see her anymore
Syndra isn't so far out of line that she needs to be brutalized with the nerf bat. Having spent a bit of time learning to play her I think the biggest problem is the speed she get's her ult set up to do as much damage as it does. A slight decrease in the damage (5-15) each ball does at earlier ranks of her R is all she really needs.
Full cast list QQ W E R (W is not necessary to hit unless you haven't harassed at all)
I kill people all the time doing this. The part that is stupid is that if I have been landing harass (I max W and throw minions at them) this can kill people and all they really have to react to is me suddenly dropping two balls in front of them and hitting E. Just from having 5(2 balls placed) balls She hits 500 damage targeted nuke with just 50 AP. 1000 health is about average for mages when she can suddenly put out all this damage.
To put into perspective how much damage she is doing with a targeted nuke. Veigar at maximum damage with 100 ap does 500 damage with a first rank ult. Level 9 Veigar is highly unlikely to have acquired 100 ap and has to have you below 1/3 of your health.
Syndra spams 2000 range stun with the fatness of 2 Morg bindings
finally hits someone
presses rest of buttons
BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GAWWWWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BBIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGPLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS
One thing I wish Riot would remove, is the annoying interaction with her E and Q. I am not talking about her being able to stun/pushback, because that is core, but while an orb is forming, and she used E, once it is full formed, it will be pushed back. Honestly only works like 50% of the time I do it, so it is SO difficult to predict
You just need to time it properly. Once you learn the timing it will never fail.
Yes, she should be immobile, squishy and unable to burst anyone. Only assassins should be allowed to burst people.
Yes, she should be immobile, squishy and unable to burst anyone. Only assassins should be allowed to burst people.
Nobody should be able to 100-0 someone with a single ability as easily as Syndra can.
but syndra cant 100-0 anyone with just ult unless she got insanely ahead......she needs to keep up all her orbs or her ult doesnt do much plus she needs to whittle people down if your using ult at the start of a fight without the enemy being low health your doing something wrong
I'm more tired of the idiots that see syndra in worlds so they pick her for ranked and then go 0/10...Already happened to me twice today...
Playing against her it feels like she has zero mana costs. Flinging shit at me all day and never goes below 50% mana.
Playing against her it feels like she has zero mana costs. Flinging shit at me all day and never goes below 50% mana.
Trust me dude, she HAS meaningful mana costs. You can complain about everything about her, but not her mana costs, they are fair enough.
Tired of people complaining about Syndra.
not to mention of your a mage against Syndra zhonyas is a big FU to her ult
it's more or less the problem of lee sin and reksai jungle donating blue buff to syndra lv3 allowing her to spam Q and do anything in lane.
or get good and stop whinning, LCS ppl didnt make it there by nerfing every oponent they couldnt beat.