When a Lucian main hears someone say 550 range is short

Totalis·Jun 29, 2015·30 votes·2,944 views

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

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Drunk RummateJun 29, 20159 votes

Sivir too.

That feeling when Vayne is considered a lane bully against you >_>

EvilRabbittJun 29, 20152 votes

A good vayne is always a lane bully, especially post level 3. Not because of any way they fight, but because a good vayne will dictate the beginning, middle, and end of ALL trades.

Auto, tumble, auto, condemn- walk away. Condemn, auto, tumble, auto- walk away. You see the problem? XD

Drunk RummateJun 29, 20151 votes

Idk I seem to do pretty well when I play Ashe and Jinx into her. You can outrange her pretty heavily with your autos to guarantee you always get one extra auto on her, and a lot of the time you just get free poke because she has no skillshot and lower base range.

And Graves, Corki and Draven will win trades with her no matter what just because... well... they're Graves, Corki and Draven.

I think tristana wins trades too assuming she leads with her E. She can also come back in for seconds with her W if necessary =P

SxliJun 29, 20151 votes

Graves and Corki win SHORT trades. If for some reason it starts to last more then 5 seconds, or Vayne initiated the trade, they`re both gonna be outgunned

Shrek LuigiJun 29, 20152 votes

Graves doesn't need an extended trade to kill Vayne, his skill combination between AAs is enough to bust through basically her entire health pool. If Vayne is stomping Graves in lane then it's because the Graves is bad at landing his skills.

SxliJun 30, 20151 votes

True, but in my mind I was also trying to picture where these trades took place. There are alot of variables. If Graves is near a wall and gets condemned, that`s AT LEAST 2 free autos then she can ult Q and shred him.

But I do agree, if theyre both standing in the middle of lane, and both are lvl 6, Graves burst probably will kill Vayne or leave her with less than 100 hp.

LetsgetcookingJun 29, 20154 votes

Draven You tend to forget that if a Vayne even dares to walk too close, Draven drops a Q on her. Then catches it. Then throws it again. Draven outranges Vayne. So if she even gets close, the Draven gets her.

EvilRabbittJun 29, 20152 votes

I always forget, draven rules the world. >.> I need to stop forgetting.

Sire HippingtonJun 30, 20156 votes

draven outranges vayne? so 550 >> 550? seems legit.

EvilRabbittJun 30, 20156 votes

Shhh- draven rules the world. Draven can throw his axe farther than TF can ulti. Shhhh. >.> Don't antagonize the Draven >.>

LetsgetcookingJun 30, 20152 votes

Oh shit. Forgot Vayne's range, thought it was 500.

My fault for being an idiot.

Hide on BrushJun 30, 20151 votes

then you use all your mana and then your condemn is on a 20 s cooldown where you can get outtraded all day by any other adc

EvilRabbittJun 30, 20151 votes

Snap. Just read it takes 50% of her mana if she has both at level 1. Idk the mana progression, but I'm assuming the same. I thought that Vayne would win a considerable amount of trades against any ADC with similar or less range because she could get her damage up front, assuming no stun. Usually players tend to run away when they get super chunked.

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20151 votes

Normally, backing off from a losing trade is good advice if the damage source is DPS. At early levels, Vayne's trades are all burst. Her base damage is crap and dependent on the steroids from her Q+ E and you don't have enough health for her W to make a big impact. Which means she will loose most extended trades pre-6. This, of course, starts reversing around mid-game when she actually has items to start scaling up her damage. But even then, most champs that she can't out-DPS at that point probably have enough tank to not care about her (yet).

Sire HippingtonJun 29, 20157 votes

now imagin playing a melee...

ModWulf HelhammerJun 29, 20156 votes

What about Quinn? 525 with only one skill that barely outranges her autos

3TWarriorJun 29, 20154 votes

quinn has very high burst damage a gapcloser/burst damage, a blind(which completely negates a carry's damage for 2 seconds), a bush-scouting ability and etc

CreationFlawJun 29, 20152 votes

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quinn has very high burst damage a gapcloser/burst damage, a blind(which completely negates a carry's damage for 2 seconds), a bush-scouting ability and etc

And yet she's one of the worst adcs because her gapcloser puts her in range of melees.

Kuroi86Jun 29, 20151 votes

Actually she's one of the worst because her kit has so little late game scaling. No innate steroids for her to really scale off of.

3TWarriorJun 29, 20151 votes

actually, if she's built as a critical champ, she can hit her target for 300% physical damage twice and gains attack speed when hitting a vulnerable champ

I don't know why they give her so many weird items when she should build like every other ADC and use her innate skills to boost her kill rate

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20152 votes

I tend to favor building her as an AD assassin. Though recommended items don't really achieve that either.

3TWarriorJun 29, 20151 votes

yes, but it doesnt change her burst damage and steroids

SH AzykanJun 30, 20151 votes

fairly certain her clunky auto's are a bigger reason, oh and the fact that her E can leave her out of range to auto the target...

Daedalus871Jun 30, 20151 votes

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fairly certain her clunky auto's are a bigger reason

so much this

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20151 votes

fairly certain her clunky auto's are a bigger reason

Oh come now. Just because she the only ranged right-clicker (that I'm aware of) who can cancel her bullets while they're in flight; that doesn't make AA's "clunky", does it?

oh and the fact that her E can leave her out of range to auto the target...

You have to be face-checking the target for this to occur; since she vaults further away based on how close she was to begin with. And honestly, I'm perfectly fine with this quirk. Because lets face it, if we're touching noses when I vault, I probably have bigger problems than AA'ing you.

EvilRabbittJun 30, 20151 votes

The blind only blocks the next auto. Teemo's blind is the one you are thinking of.

RenailleJun 29, 20155 votes

When someone complains about playing a "short" range adc Aatrox Akali Alistar Amumu Blitzcrank Braum Chogath Darius Diana DrMundo Evelynn Fiora Fizz Galio Garen Gragas Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Kassadin Katarina Kayle Khazix LeeSin Leona Malphite Maokai MasterYi Mordekaiser Nasus Nautilus Nocturne Nunu Olaf Pantheon Poppy Quinn Rammus RekSai Renekton Rengar Riven Rumble Sejuani Shaco Shen Shyvana Singed Sion Skarner Talon Taric Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zac Zed

Hide on BrushJun 30, 20151 votes

at least half of those champions have been complained about for years. pretty sure the only champion that's never been complained about out of all of those is galio, because nobody even plays him

SH AzykanJun 30, 20151 votes

what about Braum? I have never seen a complaint about him and I have been playing since just before his release O.o

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20151 votes

His attack speed was nerfed because he was able to self-apply his passive while being kited early-mid game (it was actually rather funny). Attack speed Braum is still a thing; he occasionally goes top lane. There's also the fact that when released, getting a passive stack was basically as fatal as a blitz grab. He's had his fair share of QQ.

Hell, even the Squid has had QQ threads. And he's upheld as the paragon of a balanced champion (currently).

SH AzykanJun 30, 20151 votes

vel'koz gets QQ, even from me because in Twisted treeline he is insane lol

I knew AS Braum was a thing, I guess I just never happened to see any of the qq threads about him at all...

badoogaJun 30, 20151 votes

But I play Galio item 3070

MLDzXnRRRJun 29, 20151 votes

Ask Urgot

IceKingChernobogJun 29, 20151 votes

Jinx get 525 range, also the nerf to lucian's range came with a huge ass buff that broke him for 5 patches straight

bradJun 29, 201531 votes

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Jinx get 525 range, also the nerf to lucian's range came with a huge ass buff that broke him for 5 patches straight

jinx gets a fuck ton of attack speed when she is in minigun and can change her range at will

Zone of EndlessJun 29, 20157 votes

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Jinx get 525 range, also the nerf to lucian's range came with a huge ass buff that broke him for 5 patches straight

weow

it's almost like Jinx doesn't have a skill that increases her range to 700 or anything.

I bet 90% of people on this forum who tries to talk about balance or anything related to it doesn't even play the game at all.

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20156 votes

Don't worry, Koggles only has 500 range. That's why he's the worst ADC in the game.

RistosJun 30, 20152 votes

not playing glorious AP Kog how does it feel to be cardboard 7 Kappa

Ariel the CruelJun 30, 20151 votes

. . . What?

Giant pink-lipped crocodile, anyone?

DestructoDaveJun 29, 20152 votes

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Jinx get 525 range, also the nerf to lucian's range came with a huge ass buff that broke him for 5 patches straight

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/adc/by-winrate

That lucian win-rate. Hes so strong!

Hide on BrushJun 30, 20151 votes

lucian is complete trash late game. worse than caitlyn because he has to be so close to do any meaningful damage. also, casting his spells roots him which also tends to be his main source of damage using his passive therefore league of tanks steamroll him