Sunfire Cape Buff

Drunken Whale·May 5, 2015·2 votes·849 views

So when I'm in game I normally don't like to buy 3 of the same defensive items, so in this case it would be armour. When I look at sunfire cape its an item that I want to buy, but sometimes feel like besides the dps passive its not really worth it. So I had an idea that we take the lousy 45 armour off of the item and give sunfire cape more health. Now as it stands it sits at 450 health but I believe it could be bumped up to 600-650. The 45 armour to me is not a big deal but if it had more health than I would feel better about buying it, especially when I buy Thornmail and Sunfire Cape. So discuss below.

19 Comments

StrawberrycocoaMay 5, 20152 votes

That armor is doing more for your effective health by granting damage reduction than just stacking more raw HP will give you.

Drunken WhaleMay 5, 20151 votes

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That armor is doing more for your effective health by granting damage reduction than just stacking more raw HP will give you.

Yea but there's better items you could build that give more than 45 armour. Are you saying that warmogs isnt good just because it gives a flat 800 health and no armour?

StrawberrycocoaMay 5, 20151 votes

When and where did I say anything about any item being "good"? Don't pull a Bill O'Reilly on me.

But if you stacked Warmogs and a 650 HP item like your proposed SFC, it wouldn't provide you as much defense as you would get by hybridizing your stats the way you get now.

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

When did I say I would stack a sunfire cape with a warmogs? I was just pointing out that just because an item doesn't have armour or magic resist built into it doesn't make it a better item. Now with my changed sunfire cape giving 650hp I feel much better if I want to rush a thornmail as my 3rd item and still feel like I'm getting more bang for my buck.

Denims Wrath666May 10, 20152 votes

why not toss on a health % increase buff? to kinda follow along the lines of the jungle sunfire

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

Because then why buy cinderhulk when sunfire cape does it better? Your just creating a loop, plus now your getting 45 armour that you don't get in cinderhulk.

Denims Wrath666May 10, 20152 votes

dude, im one of the many who dont even bother buying sunfire really. if im planning on going for that passive im going smite for toplane anyways. thats an issue.

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

I know what your saying man, but you cant just add %hp to sunfire cape as it sits, because then the topic becomes why am I buying cinderhulk when Sunfire cape is so much better so your just switching the problem.

Denims Wrath666May 10, 20152 votes

but the cinderhulk itself is waay too good itself imo. think about it, people are willingly changing their summoners just to get this item. either buff sunfire a bit to stop this, or lower cinderhulk.

Denims Wrath666May 10, 20152 votes

to go along with your idea a bit, please, check this idea out. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vB1HPPMs-new-point-system-for-upgrading-items-before-game it could have potential to impliment your idea into mine

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

That's not a bad idea. Kinda like adding enchantments to items.

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

I totally agree with you. That's why I suggested the change that I did, I know what you mean because I don't even want to touch sunfire cape because I know how much better cinderhulk is.

Denims Wrath666May 10, 20151 votes

well dangit dude, bump it up. im amazed its been up for a few hours without going neg, so i must be onto something if the trolls cant find a reason to hate the idea

Wolfram OxfordMay 5, 20151 votes

No, it shouldn't be buffed, that's just encouraging the use of tanks even more and giving them an unnecessary buff. By the way you do realize how strong tanks are at the moment, right?

Drunken WhaleMay 5, 20152 votes

Yes tanks are strong, but that doesnt mean that their unbeatable. Everyone says were in a tank meta when in reality where in a meta that's all about team fighting. And guess what no one knows how to team fight, so they blame it on the tanks.

NauthesMay 5, 20151 votes

We do need a non-jungling %HP item like cinderhulk. item 3068 could be a candidate.

Or maybe item 3083

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

I think %hp on warmogs that already gives 800hp would just be op, I believe they nerfed warmogs from 1000hp to 800hp because people complained so they wouldn't add %hp to an idea that's balanced as it is. Sunfire cape would become op with added %hp when it already gives hp and armour plus a good passive, basically it would become better than cinderhulk, and we would just create a different discussion.

Very Hard EngageMay 5, 20151 votes

sunfire should go ahead and deal more damage to champs and less to minions, whereas cinderhulk should do more to minions and less to champions. and ofc, still retain the "no stacking" affix.

Drunken WhaleMay 10, 20151 votes

I could dig this Idea. I believe they are already changing Cinderhulk to do more damage to minions anyway so it might not be in favor that much, but the %hp is also nice so it might no go away. If sunfire cape did more damage to champions then minions I believe that's a great buff to the item.