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AirKingNeo4 votes

Having percent HP damage and fighting tanky people tends to equal high 'damage' on chart.

Kinda like Brand and Zyra always topping damage despite being supports, apply context.

Infernape3 votes

AoE damage heavily skews damage numbers.

Nayzumi2 votes

But he's a TANK. He's applying too much pressure as a tank, to the point where it is sometimes MORE VALUABLE to focus him rather than the enemy adc. In this case, notice how he legit DOUBLES his Tristana's fucking damage with a Ohmwrechker and a Knight's Vow.

RenownedWheat422 votes

Tanks don't just do no damage. I've walked out of games with most damage done as full-tank supp Nautilus because of his AoE effectiveness.

Hit 5 people for 10, and it looks like you're doing more than the one guy who hit 1 person for 25.

Nayzumi1 votes

There's a difference between doing a flat ammount, and doing 16% of someones life on a 4 second cooldown at max rank.

RenownedWheat422 votes

Using target dummies as an example, Ornn is doing 956 damage every 6.3 seconds with the build you showed with W max (assuming level 18). On multiple champs, that's going to look huge, even if his damage is honestly not THAT bad.

Granted, this number is skewed as target dummies have 10k HP with flat 100 mr/armor. Using your actual team, the number is going to be SIGNIFICANTLY lower per W.

TheFallenShaw1 votes

cant do that to multiple enemy champions, unless they stand there and let him. He can do that to 1. I bet the adc didnt move the support and illaio staid in aa range all on the same side as he needs to apply brittle to proc it. So the ods of him applying it every 6.3 is really far off reality. I'd say in a team fight he might get it off on 2 people 3 if they are dumb. Before getting melted. Trydamere can crit for 2k every what lmfao well with that keystone idk but his basic build gives it to him ever 2.01 seconds hitting 2k damage. add his spin in and adc = dead, mid = usually dead 1 aa 1 spin. tanks 4-5 whacks max,

5 whacks 4.2 seconds at 10k damage. reduced by basic tank armor to 50% is 5k damage still, Healing for % btw lethal tempo.... He'll exceed the cap so Idk but 15k-20k in same time frame reasonable. theory. Jax can do the same thing.

Illaio can team wipe with her ult so, no one has ever done the damage numbers but penta is penta. And it doesnt' matter how much they do only if they can do it consistantly which orrn can't. He's to easy to kite and ignore while destroying the other targets. The OP doesn't know how to play around teamfights is all. Thats the only way Orrn racks that damage against lo skill players who don't understand how to play vs him. Every champion has a play style to counter. Do you rush an annie with stun and tibbers up? No? well OP and his team basically did that. ran strait to him, then stood there. to let that damage happen.

TheFallenShaw2 votes

16% isnt true damage is it? hell even if it was, your arguement is dumb. as it would take around 20 seonds to kill someone. Again learn to actually dodge and build the right items. Also thats max rank so what is that level 10? He's a free kill in anylane early. can't gank as jungle well. if he's support its adc's faught for basically letting him go unchecked and if top the top lanes faught. He gets strong late not early and hes slow.

Mundo does what 20-22% hp damage per Q on a 2 second cd. why your complaining. His w grants him what 60% cc reduction. His E buffs his damage buy a fuck ton. and mundo's Ult well how do you like watching someone about to regen 4k hp ever 20 seconds, with around 200 base hp regen when built right.

Cho'gath deals what to champions 300 / 475 / 650 (+ 50% AP) (+ 10% bonus health) just off ult 80second cd. TRUE DAMAGE. oh dont forget the 4 second E 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 30% AP) (+ 3% (+ 0.5% per Feast Feast stack) of target's maximum health) SLOW: 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50%

Lets hope he didnt build a banshee's and at 10 stacks already. If so, thats what 24% hp damage on just his Es % damage before the ap and his 10% hp kicks in to damage more along with a slow and the base.?

Do I need to pull some more random tanks out? Or do you understand by now its You and your team, not the orrn. He's not OP, yall just arn't skilled enough to play. I'm not being mean or toxic but if you don't understand how to counter build or think he's OP its simply a fact. As I just showed you 2 champs with more sustiain, hp, damage than he has. and they tank better than him to. Cho bc he's so big they couldnt hit someone else with a skill shot if god blessed their keyboard. And mundo bc he's gonna run straight in your face hitting Q's and AA with his ult on and a serek's gage ready togo. Do you ignore the half of your hp gone in 2 seconds and keep hitting the adc mid or jug, or does your team focus him, since he's in range and your half dead. already. He forces an enemy team to focus him. With proper build a mundo with charge straight into a velcox ult and kill him before it ends. with abotu 70 to 80% hp left. IK bc I've done it with mundo atleast 20 times. I laugh my ass off when I see velcos ult. Its like a free present.

Learn to play, learn champions, then once you figure that out then bring the omg op op. stuff out. You wanna know what's OP watch challenger replays. see them stomping alot of games then you know what the op champ is. Why? because they have the mechanics and forsight you don't lets not even speak of experence. You never seen a teemo in the lcs have you? No why? bc teemo's kit is garbage he needs reworked. He's terrible. That's why they never play him. In bronze and silver they get on the forums and Yell Nerf teemo!!!! Omg he's OPOP here look at my screen shot. Now let my say dam and fuck a couple of times....

wait you did that with orrn case closed.

AlienPrimate3 votes

Since you are posting on an alternate account and I can't see the game, I'm going to assume that Ornn was super fed this game and could do practically anything that he wanted to do. Being fed and doing a lot of damage is to be expected no matter who you are playing as.

YokoNomi2 votes

Why are the score and levels hidden? I feel like that'd be required information in making such a point.

Jbels2 votes

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Why are the score and levels hidden? I feel like that'd be required information in making such a point.

Because he realized how stupid he would look if people could see the score and know that Ornn isn't broken, he was just fed out the ass.

TheFallenShaw1 votes

He out damaged your team, bc your team and you are low skill. You can dodge everything Orrn does, save his ult. Which usually isnt worth a flash. learn to dodge.

By dodge I mean attacks not game. Being yall let a slow low range champion out damage you and your team, I had to make sure that was clear. You can litterly just walk away from him, side step/ run behind his w. He's truely a free kill early and free kill to anyone who builds lord dom, and bork later. Learn item build counters. You will never get better using the cookie cutter builds off champion gg, because you don't understand why they are built when they are built. And correction on the counter build. just noticed him starting thornmail late. item 3153 item 3036 item 3111 item 1053 + what ever gold is left Though that should be plenty esp if you have doron's blade left over for the added healing. Build the second vamp secptor into hydra or deaths dance. Also phanton dancer will actually reduce the damage his thorn mail inflicts on you, same with the treds though if your illioa then a simple deathsdance and lord D should be enough with your cleaver.

StairCasexd1 votes

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He out damaged your team, bc your team and you are low skill. You can dodge everything Orrn does, save his ult. Which usually isnt worth a flash. learn to dodge.

By dodge I mean attacks not game. Being yall let a slow low range champion out damage you and your team, I had to make sure that was clear. You can litterly just walk away from him, side step/ run behind his w. He's truely a free kill early and free kill to anyone who builds lord dom, and bork later. Learn item build counters. You will never get better using the cookie cutter builds off champion gg, because you don't understand why they are built when they are built. And correction on the counter build. just noticed him starting thornmail late. item 3153 item 3036 item 3111 item 1053 + what ever gold is left Though that should be plenty esp if you have doron's blade left over for the added healing. Build the second vamp secptor into hydra or deaths dance. Also phanton dancer will actually reduce the damage his thorn mail inflicts on you, same with the treds though if your illioa then a simple deathsdance and lord D should be enough with your cleaver.

Ornn doing a lot of damage doesn't mean that everyone on the team just sucks. Also it's not really a good idea to go around calling people low skill.

TheFallenShaw1 votes

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Ornn doing a lot of damage doesn't mean that everyone on the team just sucks. Also it's not really a good idea to go around calling people low skill.

I'm terribly sorry, let me rephase so not to offend. Only players who are ..... "SKILL CHALLENGED" could possibly let him deal that damage as he has a

base ms of 335 and the W which the "SKILL CHALLENGED" ACTIVE: Ornn shields himself for 12% of his maximum health for 2.5 seconds and marches, Unstoppable icon unstoppable, in the target direction with 50% reduced movement speed for the next 0.75 seconds. and a range of RANGE 175 Also has a big hitbox thus minion blocked alot

Now if i'm useing the incorrect term or something offencive this time, how about you suggest another word for playing with little to 0 skill far below the Orrn who delt the most damage in the game. I'm not calling anyone anything btw, don't put words in my mouth. The games history clearly shows this Orrn to be far more skilled that anyone on the enemy team thus the OP is in fact of lower skill, which means in the context of subject matter we are speaking of in refence to, that being said champion "Orrn" and the PLayer behind him. His team are of low skill.

that is not me flameing or insulting, I'm simply a very litteral person with poor spelling. I'm sorry if stateing fact's or telling the truth, offends you. However that's your problems as you are in charge of your own feelings. As I am of my actions. And should I desided to call someone something I will. However thats my choice, in the case of this matter I'm not insulting just using the simplest terms i can spell that state actual fact's. If that seems toxic then I guess your saying the truth, and recorded history aka the game he played is toxic as well. Though neither of those make much since. Next time you speak to me, please get your facts right and quit asuming I'm insulting people when I'm not.

There is nothing wrong with being less skilled than another player, why people get offended by people refering to it, when the OP himself made it public knowledge by posting a pic with text. then came saying a champ was OP that wasn't I stepped up to, actually bring up stats. In which case mundo and cho clearly deal more damage than him. and out preform him in every aspect save for his passive item advantage.

TheFallenShaw1 votes

Orrn is slow you see that on his w?

50% of 335 ms So a champion at 167ms chased him and his team down to whack them on the head, with a 175 range......

How else can you explain it?

TheFallenShaw1 votes

to beat orrn u use the build i suggested, or if ranged, points above u see that step back aa step back aa step back aa. Its "CALLED" Kiting, I hope the mr assumes i'm doing things i'm not understands I called a champion retreating while attacking the term Kiting, he might assume i was talking about flying a kite.

When orn trys to charge side step, and ..guess what step back aa step back aa.

when he trys to pillar guess what....

side step aa step back aa step back aa.

Notice i changed what u start with on the last, thats bc charge puts him on you. you need range. btw if you say his aa and the w are the same they arnt his aa is 175

w range is RANGE: 550

you and your team lost bc you were to close and played it wrong. Every abiliy orrn has save w can be dodge, and w only will land for .1 sec if your good. He'll only proc it with flashes and on ults after that. In which case that dps is so low you'll heal it faster.

OurLestrade1 votes

item 1057

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

His main damage scales with HP, including Brittle, and he built 3 items out of it. Nothing wrong here.

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