PROMOS ARE RIGGED AND DONT BELONG IN MMR RANKED

HeirofGoku·Dec 15, 2019·5 votes·1,152 views

Seriously why the hell are there promos in an mmr based ranked system. Why is it that every promo game seems to be even more onesided than every other game of ranked? How is it that a specific 3 games out of the last countless amounts of games are the ONLY W/L THAT MATTER?

Only reason promos seem to exist in this ranked system is as a forced wall to slow down progression and force people to play longer. That or your devs are stupid and have no idea what they were doing when they thought adding promo games into a mmr based ranked system was a good idea and not just a toxic bottleneck to slow down the game.

When you reach 100 lp you should move up. When you reach 0 you should move down. There is no reason to have a specific small number of promo games decide whether or not you move up to the next elo.

REMOVE PROMO GAMES FROM RANKED

12 Comments

Summoner SpeIIDec 15, 20192 votes

lol u want to devalue the ranked system even more than removing 5 divisions

HeirofGokuDec 15, 20193 votes

The ranked system has no value because Riot still wont do a reset on mmr

Summoner SpeIIDec 15, 20193 votes

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The ranked system has no value because Riot still wont do a reset on mmr

true, i want a hard reset on mmr because of dynamic queue and positional ranking era, that shit has ruined the rank system so much

5050BSDec 15, 20191 votes

fuked accounts up so bad. They reset Plat+ but not everyone else. Why? Because Riot gives no shit about Lower ELO

HeirofGokuDec 15, 20191 votes

Agreed

Kai GuyDec 16, 20192 votes

Hard reset is a bad idea. The logic is really easy.

A. You believe the system works and would correctly redistribute players to proper ranks over time because good will climb and weak will sink. But... As there's never a lock on an account there's no need to hard reset and it will damage match quality for months as every game runs the theoretical worst case highest possibility for mismatches.

B. You don't think the system works so a hard reset would accomplish jack shit.

"but folks get ranks they don't deserve if they just don't play" fuck it. IM happy to have people get a inflated rank if they are actively not participating in ranked games. Let them not be in anybody's matches, that's fine with me.

ChargeItDownMidDec 16, 20191 votes

A hard reset would ruin the ranked system far more than what dynamic queue did. We have already had 3 soft resets since dynamic queue, any damage that has done to the ranked ladder is long gone.

Kai GuyDec 15, 20192 votes

Then they would also need to remove demotion protection.

Ranks move slower then MMR. This is by design to distract players when they are sinking. If your winning so much your MMR is sky rocketing Promos don't matter worth shit. You will skip them.

If you cant consistently win 1 in 2 games? you keep failing the same promo over and over and over and over... why the hell do you deserve to climb.

Fail 1. ok. free win. Beat the 1st or 2nd game and boom its over. Worse case your trying to hit a new rank and then its 2/4. You need to have 2/2 fail rate,3/3 or 3/4 Fail rate to not make it out of a promos with helper.

KeiagaDec 15, 20192 votes

Sounds like someone is upset they keep losing their promos.

HeirofGokuDec 15, 20191 votes

I won them just feel like they are unnecessary filler

Darkdemon653Dec 16, 20192 votes

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Seriously why the hell are there promos in an mmr based ranked system. Why is it that every promo game seems to be even more onesided than every other game of ranked? How is it that a specific 3 games out of the last countless amounts of games are the ONLY W/L THAT MATTER?

Only reason promos seem to exist in this ranked system is as a forced wall to slow down progression and force people to play longer. That or your devs are stupid and have no idea what they were doing when they thought adding promo games into a mmr based ranked system was a good idea and not just a toxic bottleneck to slow down the game.

When you reach 100 lp you should move up. When you reach 0 you should move down. There is no reason to have a specific small number of promo games decide whether or not you move up to the next elo.

You apply more value to them, so you are more likely to retain the bad things that happen in promotional games. They're not the only games that matter. If you aren't winning your regular games, you aren't going to reach your promotional games.

They exist because when they didn't, many people upon reaching a new tier were hesitant to continue playing out of fear of dropping back down. Then when they did drop down for whatever set of reasons, they were disheartened and were less likely to continue trying with as much effort as they did before.

Again, you have to win enough games to reach 100 LP. if you're treating your non-promotional games as if they don't matter, that's going to be far more of a hindrance to you increasing your rank than promotional games.

Also, just to point it out, it's far easier to promote than it is to demote. The system is specifically designed that way. At 100 LP, winning 3/5 games will always result in increasing one's rank while losing 3/5 at 0 LP will never decrease one's rank. On top of that, once one reach a promotional series for a time beyond the first, one is given a free win.