Isn't Blitzcrank's pull just a better version of Jarvan's flag + drag?

Cannoli Virus·Nov 2, 2016·1 votes·635 views

Rework J4 2017

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16 Comments

Timethief49Nov 2, 20167 votes

Yeah isnt gangplank basicly zac because he also has an a in his Name?

Cannoli VirusNov 2, 20162 votes

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Yeah isnt gangplank basicly zac because he also has an a in his Name?

You're right holy bananas

mustafa2881Nov 2, 20161 votes

holy stupidity of ur 12 years old mind in the 18 years old body

Cannoli VirusNov 2, 20162 votes

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holy stupidity of ur 12 years old mind in the 18 years old body

wrong on both accounts, but thanks for trying

WarlockLawNov 2, 20163 votes

Comparing a single target displacement effect to a gap closer and AoE knockup effect

One is somehow better than the other

Just no

Cannoli VirusNov 2, 20162 votes

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Just no

Calling a grab a displacement effect and not counting it as a gap closer

Smdh

WarlockLawNov 2, 20162 votes

Gap closer does not accurately describe the situation. A gap closer would get Blitz closer to the enemy, not Blitz's entire team. Blitz and his team are not moving, just the target that got hit.

Cannoli VirusNov 2, 20161 votes

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Gap closer does not accurately describe the situation. A gap closer would get Blitz closer to the enemy, not Blitz's entire team. Blitz and his team are not moving, just the target that got hit.

From Google:

opening; def. 1: an aperture or gap

gap; def. 2: an unfilled space or interval

close(2); def. 1.1: move or cause to move so as to cover an opening; def. 1.3: bring two parts of (something) together so as to block its opening

By all means of the English language, Blitzcrank's pull is a gap closer.

WarlockLawNov 2, 20163 votes

Except gap closer is a colloquial term. It's used to indicate the champion moving, not moving enemy champions

Cannoli VirusNov 4, 20161 votes

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Except gap closer is a colloquial term. It's used to indicate the champion moving, not moving enemy champions

right, and "pizza" now means "to punch you in the face", so saying "I want pizza" now means "I want to punch you in the face," because I said so.

see how that doesn't work

WarlockLawNov 4, 20162 votes

That's not how something becomes a colloquial term. In order for it to become a colloquial term, people have to use it to mean such. The league community has used 'gap closer' to specifically mean 'you move towards the target/enemy.' The community also uses 'hook' on effects the 'bring the enemy towards you.' As such Blitz has a hook, but not a gap closer.

Just because you personally said so, does not mean you have instantly made a colloquial term. "Pizza" won't mean "to punch you in the face" until you get other people to use the term in such a way. As such your argument is invalid.

CrazyBear1987Nov 2, 20163 votes

Apples and Oranges, do we need to discuss these? i don't think so.

Blitzcrank can;t use his pull to escape, Jarvan IV combo can. Better or Worse? Just different.

Paladin 0f LifeNov 2, 20161 votes

More like targeted lee sin kick with minimal downsides

EcchiOtakuTMNov 2, 20161 votes

Pulling the wrong target is not minimal at all o.o

DanjengNov 2, 20161 votes

It's all relative to the kit. J4 can kill you in 4 seconds. Blitzcrank can auto you for 30.

Paladin 0f LifeNov 2, 20161 votes

Do i need to say how since blitz has a knock up and grab while jarvin with two abilities only gets a knock up??? If comboed right. I think i need to say it