So question is which are the best : Devourer or Warrior ?
Warrior: +40 AD +10% CDR +10 Armor Penetration
Devourer: +50% AS +30(+30 stacks) Magic Damage on Hit
The reason why i put this question is that i saw a guide on Shaco that says you should build devourer on him . Single bonus to build AS on Shaco is his E ,that give slow on atack .
SO is wurf to build devourer on champs that use Warrior?
Dr Poro2 votesWarrior fits shaco way better than Devourer. He has no synergy with devourer and Warrior are just flat stats that he can use very well. The problem, however, and the reason why that guy suggested devourer is that Warrior is currently immensely underpowered compared to devourer, runeglaive and cinderhulk. Warrior used to be the dominant jungle item, but it got a small but meaningful (and deserved) nerf of -5 AD. However, after doing this, they reworked Juggernaut into the way better cinderhulk. After the nerfs, cinderhulk still outclassed warrior and devourer. Magus was also pretty OP, but the stats it gave didn't help most AP junglers where they needed help in the early game. The only really good AP junglers with it were fiddle and nidalee. This item got reworked into Runeglaive and got a few buffs(/powershifts) after release making this item way more efficient than the AD warrior counterpart, but okay, AP junglers are traditionally weaker in jungle and needed some help. However, right now AP junglers kinda outclass all the traditionally dominant AD junglers. After this, they decided to buff the final rival of Warrior: Devourer. With the release of Sated devourer, ALL other junglers are now stronger than Warrior junglers and Devourer junglers are on top. Devourer is so strong currently that it is only slightly weaker than Warrior early game but scales amazingly into lategame while warrior falls off. Devourer is actually more cost efficient than Warrior, but because of the low power that early AS brings, Warrior still wins a 1v1. For farming, however, devourer is better on AA junglers.
Moral of the story, Warrior is just way worse than the other jungle items and it shows in winrates. Shaco is currently the ONLY warrior jungler that has above 50% winrate. Many junglers that traditionally bought warrior have shifted to devourer or cinderhulk. Sadly, not all champions can do this efficiently, like Shaco or rengar.
HaIlMonitor1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dr Poro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m7aU1cV5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-26T09:18:15.578+0000)
Warrior fits shaco way better than Devourer. He has no synergy with devourer and Warrior are just flat stats that he can use very well. The problem, however, and the reason why that guy suggested devourer is that Warrior is currently immensely underpowered compared to devourer, runeglaive and cinderhulk. Warrior used to be the dominant jungle item, but it got a small but meaningful (and deserved) nerf of -5 AD. However, after doing this, they reworked Juggernaut into the way better cinderhulk. After the nerfs, cinderhulk still outclassed warrior and devourer. Magus was also pretty OP, but the stats it gave didn't help most AP junglers where they needed help in the early game. The only really good AP junglers with it were fiddle and nidalee. This item got reworked into Runeglaive and got a few buffs(/powershifts) after release making this item way more efficient than the AD warrior counterpart, but okay, AP junglers are traditionally weaker in jungle and needed some help. However, right now AP junglers kinda outclass all the traditionally dominant AD junglers. After this, they decided to buff the final rival of Warrior: Devourer. With the release of Sated devourer, ALL other junglers are now stronger than Warrior junglers and Devourer junglers are on top. Devourer is so strong currently that it is only slightly weaker than Warrior early game but scales amazingly into lategame while warrior falls off. Devourer is actually more cost efficient than Warrior, but because of the low power that early AS brings, Warrior still wins a 1v1. For farming, however, devourer is better on AA junglers.
Moral of the story, Warrior is just way worse than the other jungle items and it shows in winrates. Shaco is currently the ONLY warrior jungler that has above 50% winrate. Many junglers that traditionally bought warrior have shifted to devourer or cinderhulk. Sadly, not all champions can do this efficiently, like Shaco or rengar.
What is scary is how much Shaco scales with Devour/Bork. I played vs one as Rengar and was really fed but he could solo me once his devour finished. It was really silly because normally shaco gets destroyed by Rengar 1v1.
miahixx1 votesIf u say that warrior is nerfed why lee is so popular now?
Shaco dont need even jungle item , he can go hydra and have preaty good sustain and damage
you can build ranger's , and go straight to hydra , infinity or statikk,
I main shaco , he have enough earl damage to 1 v 2 enemy jungler and midlaner when invaiding at lvl 2 after red at enemy blue , with Q and W combo . and then go b , buy Pickaxe with only 1 cleared camp in jungle , then he go for full clear and get tiamat, after he gets 2-3 items he just push to win . But now with this devourer meta , Udyr , Shivana that deals a lot of AOE. shaco ult is useless in duels or teamfights ,
I played a lot of shaco and had like 60% winrate ,but when i tryed Udyr i just get 3 wins in a row , Udyr have strong early pre 6 ganks and if he gets enough tanky he just dive turrets and carry all game
When i played an game with udyr we had in a team 2 AFK and we still wined until our toplaner desconected. Why riot dont nerfed it ? they want to get skarner back ? this damage from devourer is so big if you dont have any resistance .
warrior is for AD caster like Yi, lee , or even rengar , it is used to deal damage with abilites not AA , but panth have only Q and E scaling from AD ,and with that CC that he has he should go tank , but tanks now are must nerfed in game , because of that ppl stop to play Ammumu , WW , nautilus , Tanks are just melted by Vayne Kayle Kog , GP that just dont care how much armor or MR enemy have
AmazingBeaver1 votesWell the Devourer passive might help you burst some one down if you attack him in the back , but warrior have more early impact , so for early gankers like 
Warrior / Cinderhulk might be better but for someone like 
devourer would be better . It all depends on how you jungle actually .
miahixx1 votesbut is ok to use devourer on champs that used warrior until stated was included in game, panth with that AS just will doge all AA because he have pasive . Why gankers started to go AFK jungle until 20-25 min and then gank when they have sated?
And devourer is earl game item , you dont need to finish it until u will start deal damage , At 19 stacks u will deal tons of damage , ( devourer is Magic Damage on hit ) in early game when nobody has MR is so ridiculos to go devourer ( it's like cheating), and if u dont have early ganks u just lose your time ( kills and assists also give stacks) so even early gankers gan go devourer
miahixx1 votesI build Devourer only on champs that benefit from it like Udyr , Kayle , TF , and not mages like Diana or Annie , even a ammumu can build dev. couse his auto reduce enemy MR
Dr Poro1 votesThe problem is that most warrior junglers don't AA alot during a teamfight. Panth has a stance with his E where he is unable to AA. He needs flat damage and penetration more than AS. Also, their abilities usually have good AD scaling. This is lost because the on hit effect of devourer doesn't trigger on these skills.
miahixx1 votesEUW, NA,EUNE.... need only Oceania an that will be full Build. XD