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Poppy's Kit Rivals That Of Lee Sin In Season 3 -- WAY Too Overloaded.

not brna xDD··6 votes·856 views

You remember back in the day when Lee Sin's cripple reduced attack speed? When his Safeguard still gave him a shield on wards? When he could shield minions? When his shield lasted a massive FOUR seconds? When his shield only had roughly a 4 second cool down at max CDR? He had more movement speed, more base armor and more health regen. That's right, think back to the days when Lee Sin was one of the most oppressive and dominating Junglers in the game. This picturesque image of Lee Sin's past IS EXACTLY what Poppy is RIGHT NOW.

Season 6 Poppy is the splitting image of Season 2-3 Lee Sin. Poppy has everything with EXTREMELY few weaknesses. Poppy has: Massive base damage, % health damage, high ability scaling, gap closers, ranged attacks, movement speed increases, armor & magic resist increases, gap closing CC stops, stuns, knock-ups, AD scaling, Magic Damage, Low cool downs, AoE abilities, huge base stats, and high base movement speed.

Recently I decided to try Poppy for the first time after her rework and I abhorred by just how absurdly powerful this champion is without even building any items. I was lagging, I was struggling in my game, AND YET no matter how far behind I fell I was still strong enough to fight anyone on the enemy team. All I could think the entire time was "how can a champion like this exist?". How has this champion been overlooked for so long? Poppy has been slipping under the radar for a while now (in my opinion) however SOMETHING needs done to trim all this excessive power and bring Poppy back down to par with the rest of the champions on Summoners Rift.

Poppy does too much far too well.

Lee Sin was nurfed harshly FOR THE SAME REASON and it's about time you gave Poppy the same punishment that was brought down on Lee.

7 Comments

Urf Mode Is Life3 votes

her damage is such a small area... her stun is so environment reliant... Sure she is tanky, but thats all she can build to be effective... her ult barely does damage... im not seeing your issues with her what so ever

not brna xDD1 votes

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her damage is such a small area... her stun is so environment reliant... Sure she is tanky, but thats all she can build to be effective... her ult barely does damage... im not seeing your issues with her what so ever

Well, while it's true she will NEVER have the raw damage of Lee Sin you have to remember this champion's job is to be a tank. Damage wise however she can out trade champions building full AP / AD without building a single damage item while maintaining her ability to perform as a bruiser / tank for her team. That's a pretty huge problem because Poppy's job isn't even to do damage to begin with.

I'm by no means saying Poppy is broken but Poppy excels at things she shouldn't due to her large base damage and stats and they really need tuned back a bit.

Herim1 votes

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Well, while it's true she will NEVER have the raw damage of Lee Sin you have to remember this champion's job is to be a tank. Damage wise however she can out trade champions building full AP / AD without building a single damage item while maintaining her ability to perform as a bruiser / tank for her team. That's a pretty huge problem because Poppy's job isn't even to do damage to begin with.

I'm by no means saying Poppy is broken but Poppy excels at things she shouldn't due to her large base damage and stats and they really need tuned back a bit.

Yeah no shit. People don't seem to realize that tanks will always kill of full damage champions because NO SURPRISE, THE FULL AD/AP ISN'T BUILDING DEFENSIVE ITEMS. The tanks out DPS because they last longer and 9-times-out-of-10 they have high cooldowns, which means they probably can use a lot more damaging/cc abilities on you that hit you hard and make you DPS less. That's the general rule of video games. If you're full on glass cannon, you can't survive anyone. That's why you sit in the back.

This isn't Poppy. This is anyone in this game. Braum support does worse things than a Poppy and does more damage in the long run, surprisingly. Leona too.

PS: Do you see Poppy being played more than Lee?

not brna xDD2 votes

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Yeah no shit. People don't seem to realize that tanks will always kill of full damage champions because NO SURPRISE, THE FULL AD/AP ISN'T BUILDING DEFENSIVE ITEMS. The tanks out DPS because they last longer and 9-times-out-of-10 they have high cooldowns, which means they probably can use a lot more damaging/cc abilities on you that hit you hard and make you DPS less. That's the general rule of video games. If you're full on glass cannon, you can't survive anyone. That's why you sit in the back.

This isn't Poppy. This is anyone in this game. Braum support does worse things than a Poppy and does more damage in the long run, surprisingly. Leona too.

That's not true even in the slightest. Let's see you play Braum against Fiora and win. Poppy's kit is overloaded. For example, why does Poppy have roughly 4 CC abilities however ALSO has more scaling on her abilities than probably 90% of the top laners out there? Oh let's not forget not only does she have really huge scaling but she ALSO has high base damage with it AND low cool downs too. No champion has that and is as tanky as Poppy is. Poppy doesn't win trades because she's building tank, she is winning trades because her stats are tuned ridiculously high.

Marshbouy1 votes

i have one 3 letter acronym. LOL

The MechE1 votes

Maybe, I honestly have not had any problems with Poppy. Her ult is crap in my opinion and she's just not good enough at anything for me to view her as a threat of any kind.

Also, her damage was not impressive to me at all. If anything, I think they should make her ult less of a piece of shit and actually make it knock people farther away or something for it to actually matter.

Herim1 votes

Comparing Lee Sin to Poppy, lul.

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