oh nerf kata oh nerf kata why don't you nerf kata~~

Sèbelon·May 15, 2015·4 votes·679 views

~srsly this champs soooooo ~~ fucking unbalanced~~ jesus christ her damage is retarded~~ ohhhh nerf katarinaaaaaaaaaaa~~~

14 Comments

SleepyLionCubMay 15, 20153 votes

Oh em geh, guis. Dis katarina got a pentakill with onle hur q. Rito plz nurf hur. Suh brukin. Y do hur abilits even do dmg? They alrdy cc so hard. Dis isnt fair. I cant deel wit ze insane dmg and utility.

Knight SoIaire May 15, 20151 votes

its not that her damage is too high, but she is too fast to stop her from doing it most of the time any squish she hits is at 25% hp before one second of her combo, so even if you cc her your squish is dead and you probalby lack damage to kill her, so she will either zhonya or jump out to safely just to come back and get more resets

SèbelonMay 15, 20151 votes

you don't say and lack of damage? she just penta killed us by only using E W over and over again

Knight SoIaire May 15, 20151 votes

what im saying that you cant cc her in time and when your carry is dead you lack the damage to kill her before thge cc wears off and she uses those resets to finish the job, thats how it is most of the time

but what i consider the problem is how hard is it to stop her from dealing the insane damage not how much dammage she deals despite it being so hard to stop

ModWulf HelhammerMay 15, 20151 votes

So hard to stop? You literally need one skill to stop her

Knight SoIaire May 15, 20151 votes

explains why katarinas are totaly unpopular due to their easy effective and alwayys awailable counterplay

she is hard to stop fo couple of reasons -cc is crucial and if you dont use it you might as well lose a 5v4 -cc has delays -someone needs to follow up on that cc -katarina wont allow you to cc her before she kills someone of your team -katarina can use zhonyas just after blinking, ofc someone of your team will get low after she blinks , and her aoe will tap others for increased chance of reset -the fight is on even if katarina isnt currently fighting

tell me whatever you want but the entire gameplay here fawours katarina to the point where hes indeed easy and always available counterplay becomes insanely weak and unreliable

ModWulf HelhammerMay 15, 20151 votes

If you CC her during her ultimate, her damage drops significantly, and she would only be able to kill the rest of your team if she was fed. They already nerfed the passive so that you have to have dealt damage within the last 5 seconds to get your resets, so that means that she can't throw out a Q, then back off, and then come back in once an enemy has been killed.

bonfire10May 15, 20151 votes

How would that be different from any other asassin? "when your carry is dead"

If you're playing in a scenario where your carry was so shittily positioned or your team did such a shit job peeling for them that they're already dead, you already lost the teamfight. Kat might clean up better than most other assassins or AP carries, but don't mistake resets snowballing her as the reason you lost. You lost when your carry died (which every other assassin in the game is more proficient than kat is at making happen) and you're looking for a scapegoat to blame for your mistakes.

SèbelonMay 15, 20151 votes

who cares about positon when kata can just walks up to you shunpo and kill you faster then you can press a singel fucking button you stupid idiot

bonfire10May 15, 20151 votes

You can not be close enough for her to do that... That's kind of what positioning refers to lol.

If you're a carry and you're close enough to kat that they can shunpo on to you, they better be CCd or be in the process of being CCd, because she's an assassin, and ADCs don't beat assassins in 1v1s.

bonfire10May 15, 20151 votes

Let's see how that could possibly be true:

Build for the highest possible amount of ap in the game

Seraphs Embrace
Rabadons Deathcap
Zohnya's Hourglass
Luden's Echo
Rod of Ages
Lich Bane

ALL AP damage skills in skill tree

Runes = ALL Tier 3 AP per Lvl runes.

Complete Build at level 18 = 1043.13 AP

This wouldn't even be achievable by kat because she wouldn't get the % bonus ap from seraphs because she's manaless, so her highest potential AP is even lower than this number, but let's just use it as an example.

Katarina's E has 160 base damage with 40% scaling. This comes out to 577 damage before magic resistance. Katarina's W has 180 base damage with 25% scaling. This comes out to 441 damage before magic resistance.

So even with an unrealistic build to maximize damage to a figure that is objectively unattainable for katarina, she would still need an out of position enemy to be as low as 1018 health and 0 magic resistance late game to even get the first reset.

As soon as she jumps in she should be ccd, so she shouldn't get more than 1 tick of her ult off if even that. I'd go through her Q damage, but you felt like exaggerating to the point of leaving out her use of her main spell.

Stop complaining about other champions when its your own shitty positioning that's killing you.

Knight SoIaire May 15, 20151 votes

Stop complaining about other champions when its your own shitty positioning that's killing you.

meanwhile your entire game history is full of katarina games

blame the positioning when you dont need to consider yours at all

bonfire10May 15, 20152 votes

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meanwhile your entire game history is full of katarina games

blame the positioning when you dont need to consider yours at all

Yes, my history is full of katarina games because I've played over 2500 games with katarina, I actually know how to play as or against her.

Assassins are the most positioning intensive role there is. They blow up just as fast as AD carries, but they don't have the safety of their own team while they're diving the backline of the enemy team. Assassination is all about timing and positioning, you think it's hard for a leblanc to press QPWE? No, what separates skill levels for assassins is the knowledge of when and where to engage. Playing katarina is 100% about good positioning and timing; jumping in to just mash your keyboard might work in gold, but good players will tear apart a katarina that isn't playing optimally.

NemeBroMay 15, 20151 votes

Whenever I play against Kat I am usually fortunate enough to be the one going mid (I main mid or top), and will usually use Cho'gath if he isn't banned against her because he gets too durable for her to burst down and he can easily stop her ult.

And it is really easy to stop her ult. You just press W.

But people in Solo Q are too stupid to understand things like "save CC for when Kat ults", so people think she's overpowered.