I just had a discussion with a lovely summoner that reminded me about a certain aspect that has, in my opinion, dull gameplay that consists of 1 amazing passive, 2 point and clicks, 1 AoE with a strong passive, and a meh ult. Since it seems Riot is reworking most point and click champions (Warwick, Akali, Nunu, etc), I am hoping Pantheon can be on that list! I'd love any opinion below [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
WøOxer3 votesI agree he is way too outdated champion with toxic kit.
Chillee1 votesI agree, but I can't hate his kit due to him and Nocturne pretty much be the characters that taught me the game, but the whole concept of an early game point and click champion that's main goal is to chase kills and one shot most ADCs is toxic, not to mention his late game is just ult and W. But I'm glad you agree with me!
eldritchbreadD3 votesi think that is gonna be harder than anyone think, they would literally would have to rework his whole kit to work again
Chillee1 votesThat is true, there are very few things that work in his kit that don't feel insanely toxic (Passive and E), but I like to think its very possible to create a new kit that compliments his theme.
eldritchbreadD2 votesThat is true, there are very few things that work in his kit that don't feel insanely toxic (Passive and E), but I like to think its very possible to create a new kit that compliments his theme.
i think the most i would do the kit like this
passive: aegis of protection: every 45-20 seconds he blocks auto attacks or turret shot. hitting an ability on an enemy or monster lowers the cooldown by 5 seconds
Q: spear shot: throw a spear to the sky and instantly falls on the area you lock on hitting enemies in a radius.
W: aegis of zeonia formation: summon spirits of pantheon that pushes enemies and stops anyone from coming close for 5 seconds. when used lowers passive for 10 seconds
E: heart strike formation: dashes toward an enemy and launches three strikes (if aegis formation is up the spirits move with pantheon doing cone shape damage.
R: sky fall: pantheon calls upon his bretheren hitting the area and slowing enemies down as he jumps up and crashing down in the area.
but that is one idea (only played a few times pantheon but its kind of hard to work with him especially fixing his kit since his lore is that he is a goddamn hivemind [sg-shisa] ) but its literally annoying to make his kit both the same and easy
Chillee1 votesYeah his Lore is pretty much he's just a strong warrior with something the equivalent of a god possessing him (not mentioning the OTHER Pantheons of the other worlds). However, This concept is very interesting and I'd love to see it in action.
Warlord Rhinark2 votesThis is my opinion (keep in mind I have absolutely no idea if this is balanced or not)
New Passive: Aspect of War. For every enemy champion hit by one of Pantheon's abilities and for every second that Pantheon is in combat, he gains a stack of Aspect of War. For every stack of Aspect of War, he deals 1% increased damage. This damage is doubled against enemies that are below 50% health. Pantheon slowly loses stacks if he hasn't been in combat for the last 5 seconds.
New Q: Spear Jab/Spear Shot. Pantheon stabs his spear in the target direction, dealing damage to all targets hit. Holding down this ability turns it into a skillshot that deals damage to the first target hit, gaining more range for the longer he channels. Charging this ability counts as being in combat.
New W: Defend. Pantheon raises his shield for 1 second, blocking the first auto attack, turret shot or ability that hits him. If Pantheon blocks an auto attack or a spell, he reflects it back at the champion who hit him, dealing them 50% of the damage he would have taken and stunning them for 0.5 seconds.
New E: Heartseeker Strike. Pantheon dashes to the target enemy unit, dealing damage. This ability can be cast during charging his Q, and the longer his Q has been charged, the longer his leap range. If this ability is cast during charging his Q, he'll deal the damage from his Q to the target he dashes to, on top of the E's already existing damage.
Ult: Grand Skyfall. Pretty much the same, except Pantheon would be able to channel his Q whilst he's falling and every second that he's channeling his ult he'd count as being in combat.
Chillee1 votesAnother very interesting concept, but the balancing really just depends on the numbers. But, I'm glad you put in your opinion in the ring!
(P.S. the name for his E might not be good due to that being a quote that is known to belong to 
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Warlord Rhinark1 votesAnother very interesting concept, but the balancing really just depends on the numbers. But, I'm glad you put in your opinion in the ring!
(P.S. the name for his E might not be good due to that being a quote that is known to belong to
I'm glad I could just share it!
Changed his E name back to "Heartseeker Strike" since there wasn't actually anything wrong with this name.
Chillee1 votesnice choice, personally i just want his ultimate for him to whip out an oven and start baking.
Warlord Rhinark1 votesnice choice, personally i just want his ultimate for him to whip out an oven and start baking.
Seems overpowered, might need some nerfs.
[sg-ezreal]
Chillee1 votesEverything is overpowered in my elo [zombie-nunu-bummed]
LeftyRaydy1 votesFIDDLE PLEASE 2 point and click CC's and 1 that bounces to other champions with priority UGH!
Chillee2 votesYeah, the Fiddle Diddler is really strong right now and his kit consists of 3 point and clicks and 1 AoE. But, he isn't strong in his intended role (Jungle), but as a support. But if my theory is correct (Riot is reworking point and click based champions), he will most likely see some love.
... but if we talking about ap "supports", somethings gotta be done about Brand. Like, I dont wanna be one shotted by a support.
LeftyRaydy1 votesThat is very easy actually instead of flat % of health damage on his passive make it scale appropriately with AP thus removing a lot of his damage if he has low AP.
Chillee1 votesi like your thinking
LeftyRaydy1 votesI mean I have plenty of solutions, but riot turned down my application 2 years ago :(.
Chillee1 votesoof sorry to hear it
LeftyRaydy1 votesEh I knew it was a long shot I was living in NJ and applied for their LA office.
Chillee1 votesKeep you expectations low so you're happy when something goes your way!
...like I know Zoe won't be removed, buuuuuuuuuuuuut...
Chillee1 votesUPDATE: I saw a really cool rework concept for the baker (in my opinion)
(https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/OlaTVQcH-pantheon-rework-idea)