Zed is pretty strong right now

Chillee··7 votes·1,467 views

That's about it. Most of the time, A zed build follows this pattern item 3147 item 3095, then the rest just full bruiser (items like:item 3047, item 3742, item 3053 , etc) I wouldn't mind, but he can one shot anyone with this build, even with only 2 damage-based items. I'm just wondering if an upcoming nerf to the CHAMPION is coming soon.

Edit: I guess they've got their hands full right now with something else (just go to the boards home to see). I'm sure they would keep Zed the same anyway

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Tahminatrix 2 votes

"We should nerf his base damage" -rioter #1

"Yes, and then we will buff lethality items to compensate" -rioter #2

"But why? We are trying to nerf his damage in general, not just when he opts to build as a bruiser, and this will impact other lethality users too" -rioter #1

"Youre fired" -rioter #2

Chillee1 votes

sums up this problem

LTK KoRo4 votes

more like:

"Boards are complaining about duskblade proc damage, but our data shows that assassins aren't overpowered." -rioter #1

"What we can do?" -rioter #2

"We can nerf the proc damage and buff lethality, so overall damage will stay nearly the same while the autoattack proc won't be overwhelming." -rioter #1

"That's actually smart, we'll calm this dumpster fire a bit while keeping assassins playable" -rioter #2

But then boards shown that no matter how Riot caters to them, they'll never be happy. Dumpster fire is burning as fiery as ever

Who Fed Ru2 votes

That's the worst Zed build I've ever seen.

The only one he can oneshot with that is the enemy ADC if he is like 3 levels down with full glasscannon build.

Chillee2 votes

I used this build, and I could 1v1 a 5/0 nasus.

Who Fed Ru2 votes

Ah ok, and the game is where in your matchhistory?

Chillee2 votes

A week ago, I just wanted to give you an example. If you want to see PROOF, my recent match history has an enemy Zed bot lane that did a build similar and was the reason they won.

Who Fed Ru2 votes

"Proof"

It was a Silver elo normal game, and he even played against 2 bronze guys.

Can I now proof that every champ is busted if I just carry a normal game with an shitty build?

Then Volibear is busted too because I carried a Flex yesterday with item 3078 Voli mid.

Chillee3 votes

...alrighty i understand your mind can't accept any opinion other than your own :)

Who Fed Ru2 votes

Goes for you too.

Ever thought of the possibility that the champ isn't overpowered and has enough counterplay? Hell even 2 item 1029 are already enough to lower his damage by a big percentage early. And if he won't snowball he won't be useful.

I'm just saying that there is a reason why his ban and his winrate both drop the higher elo you go, and he currently is nonexistant in pro play.

I mean, if you really think he is busted, fine, but saying that Offtank Zed is viable in any form is just straight up bullshit.

Chillee1 votes

His main item, Duskblade, has more lethality now. If you don't know what that means, it now shreds armor easier. Stormrazor, his second damage item, gives him crits on his first few attacks. All of this combined with his ultimate, Electrocute, and maybe ignite, is enough to burst someone down with out a doubt. There is no need for anymore damage if you just get a deadman's or a Sterak's, you can just live longer and dish out even more damage. If you look at most Zed's, this is a common way to build him.

Who Fed Ru1 votes

Zed doesn't build Stormrazor second. He doesn't even build it at all anymore, especially not as it's now nerfed down to only a 140% crit without crit chance.

"Yes he does the one in my last ga-" Don't even try. https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed

All of this combined with his ultimate, Electrocute, and maybe ignite, is enough to burst someone down with out a doubt

Sure if he is 8/0 and against an squishy with 0 armor.

There is no need for anymore damage if you just get a deadman's or a Sterak's, you can just live longer and dish out even more damage.

Yeah and then the enemies catches up, starts building armor and you just wasted your whole lead on tank items and suddenly can't kill anyone anymore. Epic. It's better to just invest into item 3147 item 3142 as first 2 items and a item 3071 after.

The Cleaver gives you enough survivability for a mobile Assassin's needs and lets you help your team take down tanks, a investment that's way better than just tankiness.

If you look at most Zed's, this is a common way to build him.

https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed

sKingEan2 votes

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Zed doesn't build Stormrazor second. He doesn't even build it at all anymore, especially not as it's now nerfed down to only a 140% crit without crit chance.

"Yes he does the one in my last ga-" Don't even try. https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed

Sure if he is 8/0 and against an squishy with 0 armor.

Yeah and then the enemies catches up, starts building armor and you just wasted your whole lead on tank items and suddenly can't kill anyone anymore. Epic. It's better to just invest into item 3147 item 3142 as first 2 items and a item 3071 after.

The Cleaver gives you enough survivability for a mobile Assassin's needs and lets you help your team take down tanks, a investment that's way better than just tankiness.

https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed

So true. Then also add the fact that any mage can rush Zhonyas during the laning phase and just destroy him in lane. Also coupled with a free stopwatch from the inspiration rune.

Chillee1 votes

It occurs to me that you don't play Zed, and are only using Pros as evidence. So I think I'm gonna take any points you say with a grain of salt

Who Fed Ru1 votes

I have 1.4M mastery on my main on Zed lol, even if I'm not one tricking anymore.

And the pros are pretty much always the best evidence when it comes to builds for SoloQ, but I can also assure you that the last nerfs to Stormrazor made that item useless for Assassins, and tank Zed isn't a thing.

GodlyBane2 votes

tank meta =/= zed is strong

Chillee1 votes

Agreed that one does not relate to the other, I was just stating that Zed only needs two items to do large amounts of damage, meaning Zed can be tankier, which an assassin shouldn't be. Tl;Dr is that Zed is strong

Shablagoo1 votes

I think you played against a good Zed player, if he is killing you like that man he most likely completely dominated his lane then dominated the game. He would also have to, and I mean have to, hit everything on his kit when he ults you. Either that or he was autoing you the entire time after he ults. Because he simply wouldnt have enough dmg.

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