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I'm not a midlaner but I believe Jungle/sup has become "lose and HARD feed" position.

Crimson Zeppelin·11/25/2019, 7:37:09 AM·44 votes·14,518 views

*I meant I'm a midlaner and not a jungler.

I cannot help but notice if my jungler or support fails, they would be below 2-3 levels against laners and cannot come back to the game forever. If your jungler picks a lvl 6 champion, they would typically be 2 levels behind. If a support loses they would be popped like balloons. . Yes, I know the community demanded jungle and support income and influence be nerfed or balanced but I never expected something like this.

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PhearBunny11/25/2019, 11:25:17 AM15 votes

idk why people wanted Jungle influence nerfed. There are like two junglers in the whole roster that have impact in the event that their mid laner isnt winning. Nerf mid lanes influence on jungle, would be the right thing to do if u ask me.

The thigh guy11/25/2019, 5:44:56 PM12 votes

This game has turned I to mid and top the game.

They are the ONLY roles who matter now.

Oh cool, you have a 6/0 adc/support. Too bad I’m 6 fucking levels up on you so I can 2v1 you.

ScarnMichaelScar11/25/2019, 3:52:51 PM8 votes

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*I meant I'm a midlaner and not a jungler.

I cannot help but notice if my jungler or support fails, they would be below 2-3 levels against laners and cannot come back to the game forever. If your jungler picks a lvl 6 champion, they would typically be 2 levels behind. If a support loses they would be popped like balloons. . Yes, I know the community demanded jungle and support income and influence be nerfed or balanced but I never expected something like this.

im gonna be straight with you. if you're feeding its not because of the role you're in. its because you fucking suck ass and feed. its really that simple. when i lose lane i NEVER feed. ever. because im not an idiot who thjnks he can safely walk up to the middle of the lane and try to farm or continue trading after ive died once or twice.

HerbertyXsSn11/26/2019, 6:25:14 PM4 votes

The current state of jungle is the single biggest contributor to one sided stomps.

Ahris11/25/2019, 8:11:02 PM4 votes

Junglers have already a huge impact with objectives. Riot needs to nerf objectives if you want the lvls.

Sup botlane was too strong, that is why Riot nerfed them.

DestructoDave11/26/2019, 9:13:31 AM3 votes

Right now people are falling too far behind; especially supports and Junglers. It almost turns into basically INTing just being in the game, and its not really their fault.

There isnt much you can do if you are gold starved and multiple levels behind. Its nothing to see fed solo laners be 2-3+ levels above everyone else, and the matter gets even worse if the enemy jungler/support has a bad game.

There seems to be a very noticeable difference in my games in those 2 roles where the losing team has some giga-feeding Jungles/Supports and I dont think there is anything you can really do. You cant play safe and work your way back into the game right now in those positions in my experience. You are just too underleveled and resource starved.

I play mostly botlane but I can just see the effect the changes have on the jungle. It seems if you ahve a bad early game as a jungler you might as well ff at 15 cause its never going to get better. Same goes for support.

016 Hiro11/26/2019, 2:37:42 PM2 votes

This is ridiculous for now. Games feels more stompy than before. If you fuck up enemy jungler early he cant do shit for next 15 minutes. If you screwed one gank and top lane screwed and died twice you are now level 6 jungle and enemy top lvl 10 (xDDD). If enemy top isn't something paper shit you literally cant gank top without your midlane

They made jungle fall behind but want junglers to be more focused on objectives (drakes more important than before, two heralds). Fuck logic rito. Now I need to remember about ganks, counterganks, clearing jungle in right order, keep pressure on enemy jungle, clear and setup vision, stay focused on objectives, hold lanes to my laners and literally you cant fucking do one mistake since you will fall behind immediately. Now you are allowed only to play early game junglers with high mobility and fast clear (yes im looking at you Warwick with 55+% WR)

The more I play jungle in pre10 the more i want to go back playing other role

Hi im 1211/26/2019, 5:29:53 AM2 votes

yeah this is pretty much true, I don't particularly mind the change though as it pushes junglers more towards fighting each other and ganking lanes less which makes lanes more fun. ironically enough the better jungler has more impact now than ever since you can remove the enemy jungler from the game so easily lmao