Stop going Support Ashe

Emelie Cauchemar··1 votes·526 views

It's honestly terrible.

I don't care what Phylol tells you. I don't care that it "looks good and can proc infinite ardent!" And you call everyone retarded for implying anyone else can do that which makes SUPP Ashe super special.

I'm just going to show you the amount of healing ardent censer + stone borne Ashe does in a 35 minute game.

https://gyazo.com/22dfaf20189ed73e45e896d988189421

And this is Zed's healing with just a single point in vampirism.

https://gyazo.com/89df5e0f83f47756f9a35e3c85198497

Do you want to know why? Stoneborn works off of your health. Ashe has extremely low health. She only gives you 16 life over 2 seconds. It does not stack, or do anything of that nature, which means constantly resetting it actually does nothing. You're trading damage + tons of CC + a frontliner/disengager/ Lulu/Janna for 16 life over two seconds and an absolutely easy lane to gank for an item that Ashe can't even get until lane phase is almost over and can be procced very easily by any other support anyways.

For example:

Taric Can proc it very easily + has stoneborne pact and a very high amount of health to work with it.

Soraka out heals stoneborn pact + provides armor and mr and very readily procs ardent censer.

item 3190 Makes it even easier.

item 3107

Supports can pretty much have ardent censer 100% uptime and provide more healing than stoneborne pact Ashe ever gives. And stoneborn pact ardent censer healers provide more utility + damage than she does as well.

I used the Zed for example. He was 200 health short of out healing a support Ashe with a single point in Vampirism. You can basically imply that a single point in MASTERY is more relevant than an entire champion + concept in the game.

Just for clarification:

https://gyazo.com/45dc69f0fdb6aea39616a55d20ff46b5

This is Janna's healing done with only her ult. She healed 10,000 more than support Ashe. And Janna is primarily a shield champion.

Can you guess who won lane?

The Janna.

Stop picking support Ashe. You're literally wasting everyone's time.

5 Comments

RookPusher1 votes

But the CC!

Escheton1 votes

Healed 40k the other day as a Stoneborn Sion with item 3174.

Look, normals are for fun. Support Ashe is fun. Don't take it to ranked.

Mysticman891 votes

It's not necessarily about the healing, it's about the ardent procs. (I also think the ardent's healing at the very least gets credited to the person doing the AAing, and not the ardent holder. Uncertain about where stoneborn pact healing gets creditted.)

Janna is basically the strongest support right now, so it's natural she's gonna win versus pretty much everything, it's not necessarily reflective of the effectiveness of alternative supports.

Emelie Cauchemar1 votes

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It's not necessarily about the healing, it's about the ardent procs. (I also think the ardent's healing at the very least gets credited to the person doing the AAing, and not the ardent holder. Uncertain about where stoneborn pact healing gets creditted.)

Janna is basically the strongest support right now, so it's natural she's gonna win versus pretty much everything, it's not necessarily reflective of the effectiveness of alternative supports.

https://gyazo.com/ff0b68d5f05aade3743420b7e0bb2af9

This is vayne with just bloodlust

https://gyazo.com/d87f686554c3487d30e3d0ae55ace455

This is BOTRK Runaans Twitch

The Vayne healed more despite having no LS, and it's because of Janna.

paisy1 votes

Can't stop won't stop

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