We're trying for a more Diverse Jungle!...still not true

Lollipop Shotgun··2 votes·654 views

I mean honestly, you can't tell me you're going for more diversity when there are still extremely limited numbers of champs that can jungle with any practical effectiveness.

However, there was a diverse jungle once upon a time. Season 2

If you want diversity, you need to revisit what was going on back then and see where the shift went from being truly diverse to the new route of, 'let's throw more items at the problem until it works again'. You could jungle literally every character in S2, THAT is diversity.

Actually, a lot of S2 gameplay that I can recall was diverse. There wasn't this stupid "meta" which is, by definition of a metagame not a friggin meta, so I don't even know our LoL "meta" is supposed to mean (metagames are supposed to create diversity and changes, not solidify everything into a strict code). Duo top, kill lane bot, Soraka jungle, Riven support, no jungler at all...these were all practical and playable strategies in S2. They worked and kept each game feeling fresh and different from the previous and following matches. Somewhere along the way we lost that and picked up this "meta" thing that people obsess over and adhere to like law (or I'll report you!).

Still gonna play on, still love LoL, but don't tell me you're trying to give me a gift time and time again, when it's the same thing you took away and smashed into bits, only to return a few fragments of it to me from time to time.

Just my two cents.

6 Comments

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

riot makes the meta to promote counterplay and healthy interaction

put kalista vs darius , thats diversity but at the same time bad gameplay

its alwats something for something so riot went with the meta

Lollipop Shotgun1 votes

I dunno, as for healthy interaction, the fact that the LoL community is a running joke for immaturity would indicate that (at least for the player end) the interactions became less healthy. As for counterplay, I can agree on the jungle aspect, but solidifying laning was going too far.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

as for healthy interaction, the fact that the LoL community is a running joke for immaturity would indicate that (at least for the player end) the interactions became less healthy.

i meant the champion champion interacrtions, not the player player interactions

Narvuntien1 votes

I am pretty sure that season 2 the jungle was too easy, It made counter junglering mostly pointless and allowed junglers to exit the jungle at full hp and terrorise the lanes. That was the Mundo, Shyvana era right?, huge AoE damage won out. so whille it was possible for everyone to jungle only extremely fast AoE junglers were used and Lee Sin.

Balancing the jungle looks like it will take time, Personally I enjoyed the challanging Season 1 jungle, sure the paths were set but you really had to be on your toes in there.

Lollipop Shotgun1 votes

It was easy, but my point to that end was more to that it needed tweaked, not nuked and redone. Riot has a horrible tendency of making changes on a tiny scale for a short time and then blowing everything apart instead of ever getting the problem corrected.

I think Irelia is currently a beautiful example balance in fine tuning. As a top primary, she was really only changed with item changes and her nerfs over countless time ended up being okay in the end. Riven's changes are similar as well.

Karma on the other hand is sort of what I see as the manifestation of Riot's general tactic of changes for jungle, and the map. Instead of looking for tweaks that help the weakpoints while keeping the strong, they just reroll everything and create a new set of strengths and weaknesses.

FHMarshy1 votes

I think the new cinder hulk actually is making quite a few junglers back to viable.

They are trying, just appreciate it

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