And one day later they all get reverted. Not adjusted, completely removed and forgotten just like Sejuani is right now. God forbid Riot make an earnest attempt to revive a fun champ that they ruined after cinderhulk's introduction, but Xin? He needed those stupid changes that were clearly over the line for a champ that was already strong. His changes weren't experimental even though they should be. Such favoritism.
Dominick Destine9 votesThey got reverted?
I'm somewhat pleased.... but at the same time disappointed.
God forbid Riot make an earnest attempt to revive a fun champ that they ruined after cinderhulk's introduction
The funny part is, Sejuani wasn't even that good .... not even during Cinderhulk's reign. You'd still see Lee Sin, Elise, Gragas and others before you'd see Sejuani. Current Zed is far more overpowered than Cinderhulk era Sejuani.
Nahui1 votesExcept he's not because he's easy to counterbuild.
Dominick Destine5 votesExcept he is because he is brainlessly easy and effective with almost zero counter-play.
No, items that "kind of defend you" against his ultimate are not effective counter-play. As someone else noted; QSS should remove his ability to blink back to his original position, that would be a legitimate counter, not the current one.
Zed is currently broken, Sejuani was just strong.
Nahui1 votesAlmost 0 counterplay besides a huge amounts of champions, exhaust, Zhonyas, and QSS.
QSS is not meant to let the ADC 1v1 him. It's meant to keep the ADC alive when Zed ults and gets the fuck out because everyone wants to collapse on him.
If it removed his shadow, there is no way Zed could be playable late game. He would have to hope the ADC is split pushing.
He's easy to pick up, difficult to master and use effectively.
Dominick Destine5 votesAlmost 0 counterplay besides a huge amounts of champions
1 semi-counter that only evens out in % win rate which is 
. That's ONE CHARACTER out of the entire roster that kind of has a slight edge but-not-really. Terrible argument.
The only other "counters" to him need to seriously outplay him while also having jungle support.... and others might even come down to a skill match-up with advantage leaning towards Zed (Ex: 
) but to say "besides a huge amount of champions" ? yeah go away fanboy.
exhaust, Zhonyas, and QSS.
Those are not "counters", those are slight defenses against one aspect of his kit.
He is still manaless with brainlessly easy waveclear , poke and very safe assassination.
If it removed his shadow, there is no way Zed could be playable late game. He would have to hope the ADC is split pushing.
Or, and get ready for this; He might have to actually think rather than exploit his ultra safe, ultra effective, low skill kit.
He's easy to pick up, difficult to master and use effectively.
Actually he's easy to pick up and easy to be effective with.
He is very low skill champion, manaless , safe, long range with high base statistics and ultra safe kit. He needs nerfs.
Nahui1 votesLissandra is an easy counter, so is Kayle. Now if Kayle decides to take a W-Q-E every 15 seconds then that's her fault, but she still does very well and scales into the late game much better than Zed and can singlehandedly ruin his late game assassination potential.
Talon, Lee, and Riven are skill match ups yes.
You also forgot Diana and Swain, as well as Lux who can easily disengage and take minimal damage on any of his engages. I agree he's powerful in lane, and one of the strongest in mid currently, but not something that can't be dealth with lol.
And Cho. Dear god Cho. However Cho practically counters everyone. But, he still counts. Easy rupture's because of the ult, silence, an auto or so, feast. Now of course Zed will swap out and be safe, and oh god how horrible that Cho wasn't owed a kill because Zed failed his ult. Except cooldowns burned, Zed lost his kill potential. Cho did not :/
All of those mentioned are counters. They're not slight defenses either. A zhonyas reduces his damage output and completely nullifies his ult. QSS completely removes his ult, however does not reduce his damage output, however the mark (Both Duskblade and ult) are gone with a nice ms boost. In a 1v1 he may still win, but in any team fight, Zed won't complete the assassination.
Here's the typical response: "He would have to think before ulting." That's the problem. There's no time, even for the best thinkers. Why isn't Kha Zix played anymore? He does amazing damage, amazing mobility, amazing stealth, and has slows. Also resets. Because everyone groups mid-late game and his damage is severely cut. So, when could Zed ever realistically ult on anyone if Qss simply removed his shadow? Never. There's never a time, and if there was, it wouldn't be on the merit of Zed's amazing playmaking strategy and decision making, it's because the enemy ADC decided he'd break away from the group and duel it out with Zed. Watch late game, where Zed is already fairly weak aside from his split push. Everyone is grouped and Zed is often found just floating around, waiting for ult-countering spells/items to be blown.
He's far from a low skill champion. You can pick up any champion, play 50 games, and do very well. However pulling off Zed's mid-late game is something you have to master. He's long been known as one of the highest skill ceiling champions of the game, among Yasuo, Orianna, and Cass.
His whole kit revolves around his shadows. Play around them. It's very easy.
There's some in the community that get there ass handed to them by Zed and go to the forums to cry about nerfs. There's the other part of the community that don't play an immobile mage and actually rushes Zhonyas because they can resist mashing Q-W-E when they're up.
Don't expect Zed nerfs from Riot. He is a champ with some of the highest counterplay in the game. They already cut his ult a bit because of duskblade. They balance around high ELO, not this.
Dominick Destine6 votesLissandra is an easy counter, so is Kayle.
Zed breaks even with both and it comes down to more of a skill match up.... even then, Zed can just hang back and farm from a fair distance , never presenting a real target thus making his counters ineffectual at best, or forcing them to come after him out of position giving Zed an advantage.
Once again his hardest counters, are not counters... they're just skill match ups. Do you not see the implication behind that?
You also forgot Diana and Swain
Sure, and Teemo is the greatest champion ever.
All of those mentioned are counters.
No they are not.
They are gated by things like heavy cooldowns, low base stats, low base ms, mana restrictions, zero mobility, etc.
Zed does not have these problems. Do you not understand? it's really not that complicated.
Here's the typical response: "He would have to think before ulting." That's the problem. There's no time, even for the best thinkers.
Wait what?
You can't "think" while playing? I think that's more of a cognitive issue with you because everyone I know has the ability to think while playing the game.
He's far from a low skill champion.
High base stats, manaless, extremely forgiving gameplay/enormous margin of error.
Yes. He is a low skill champion.
Don't expect Zed nerfs from Riot.
On that front you are correct; Zed is flashy and therefore, he is not going to be nerfed.
The Morello era would have definitely nerfed Zed. Meddler era is different, Meddler era is all about style whereas Morello era was all about substance.
I honestly feel... so strange, pining for the days of Nerf Master Suck Town... we really didn't appreciate what we had.... he was a great leader with true vision who has been relegated to back-stage action while the others take the forefront of the organization (In this end at least).
Morello; In the name of my compatriots and myself, I honestly and sincerely apologize to you for all the nonstop, unwarranted criticism we levied against you. You were great at your job and I wish you'd take over again, come back from the shadows, we need you more than ever, gg.
Nahui1 votesWell if Zed has no real counters and can farm perfectly safety, it's strange to me that he has the 9th highest performance rate in mid high ELO and a 0 percent ban rate. Very odd considering he's this broken demon of a champion with no real counters and no thought to play. Very odd.
A counter is not someone who can just right click on Zed and kill him. Yes, vs any match up, Zed can sit back and farm safely. However, he's an assassin and is required to snowball. You need to win mid game because Zed sucks late game, undeniably. A zed sitting there passively farming won't do that. These are champions that can and will stand up to Zed on a one on one fairly easily.
Diana is a powerful champion and a known counter to assassins, let alone AD assassins. Swain is as well with how tanky he gets and how much synergy Zhonyas has with him.
You know what I meant by think. You can't simply pick opportune times late game. Opportune times are when the team fight begins and the ADC is only surrounded by 2 enemies, not 4. Zed would have no late game.
Riot will nerf something if it needs to be nerfed. Not a champion with anti-items and 9th best in his role. Learn to fight Zed. It's that simple. [slayer-jinx-wink]
Dominick Destine1 votesWell if Zed has no real counters and can farm perfectly safety, it's strange to me that he has the 9th highest performance rate in mid high ELO and a 0 percent ban rate.
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it's strange to me that he has the 9th highest performance rate in mid high ELO and a 0 percent ban rate.
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in mid high ELO and a 0 percent ban rate.
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and a 0 percent ban rate.
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0 percent ban rate.
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
SithesisLord1 votesZed breaks even with both and it comes down to more of a skill match up
Not really. The fact that Zed has to actually commit to a longer trade, effectively going against his assassin playstyle to even come close to chunking Kayle low enough makes the matchup favor her, really.
Once again his hardest counters, are not counters... they're just skill match ups. Do you not see the implication behind that?
Kayle x Zed is a skill matchup. Kayle x Yasuo is a skill matchup. Kayle is good in this meta.
Three sentences. Two are wrong. I´ll let you figure out which is which.
Lauchmelder10 votesAn ASSASSIN with mage like poke and an ultra safe kit is definitely not broken.
Nahui1 votesLast I checked QSS and Zhonyas and Exhaust weren't hard counters to any mages kit.
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Ratbert2 votesExcept every combo mage, any mage who relies on their sole hard cc, and any burst mage. Which is basically all of them.
Nahui1 votesThat removes the CC, not the damage and you're at range dealing damage. You remove Zed's whole ult and he has to get out provided you have allies.
Sir Yamazuki3 votesThat removes the CC, not the damage and you're at range dealing damage. You remove Zed's whole ult and he has to get out provided you have allies.
If Morg Qs and you qss, then her W does no damage, if Lux Qs and you Qss then they are likely to miss their R, etc etc. In the case of Zhonyas, using it against any other ability with an animation stops the damage and it goes on full cool down. There's also Hex/Maw that prevents burst mages from bursting due to mr+shield.
So lets not pretend Zed is impacted more by Zhonyas/Qss than any other champion.
Nahui1 votesYou're joking right? You're comparing deleting death mark to cleansing a short bind? Her E will chunk no matter what and can still have a fair chance of landing her ult. Lux can bind again very shortly later. Zed's got quite the wait.
And Morg's Q still nukes you. Lux's Q still nukes you. And Zhonyas is far more detrimental to Zed when it comes to an all in, especially late game, than someone like Lux who can do the same from across the screen, and have it back sooner. Oh, and the armor is nice too.
Sir Yamazuki2 votesYou're joking right? You're comparing deleting death mark to cleansing a short bind? Her E will chunk no matter what and can still have a fair chance of landing her ult. Lux can bind again very shortly later. Zed's got quite the wait.
And Morg's Q still nukes you. Lux's Q still nukes you. And Zhonyas is far more detrimental to Zed when it comes to an all in, especially late game, than someone like Lux who can do the same from across the screen, and have it back sooner. Oh, and the armor is nice too.
It doesn't matter if they dealt some damage, they are not 100-0ing you, and due to being cool down based they will die to the person using qss, Zed does not have his life threatened when his ult is qssed as he gets away whether he succeeds to kill or not.
Nahui1 votesAnd Zed is barely scratching you with it, and not coming close to 100-0.
Morg is not threatened by QSS as she has 2 CC's nd is long range. Zed has to be in melee for the most part. Same with Lux. And again, short cooldowns. Nothing like Zed's ult.
Ratbert2 votesExcept zed also has skills that do damage beyond his ult, and those really hurt.
You can qss both of morg's ccs in one go. Zed also has mobility, so that already balances his melee range. Morg's cds are just as large as zeds (I think) and she basically needs to be in melee range unless you're willing to gamble with her ult.
Nahui1 votesQ mitigated by minions or other champs and a melee range average damage E.
It's the ADC's that march up to Zed and get shadow E-Q-Auto'd that die. Don't 1v1 him. Simple.
However, his ult is his main killing point.
Dominick Destine1 votesThat removes the CC, not the damage
???
Nahui1 votesMalz will continue to do the damage, not the CC part though. Brand will...still do all of his damage unless you manage to quickly Zhonya's one spell or something, Morg has two CC's, and does not require her ult to be useful come late game. Fizz has a troll pole and can easily work around his ult. Cass still does the damage unless you zhonyas, and then you're prime target for poison, her main damage. Zed ults, you zhonyas, end of engage unless he's fed and you're in the middle of nowhere. Zed ults, you QSS, so long as an ally is nearby, you're safe. There goes his whole kit's threat.
Dominick Destine1 votesMalz will continue to do the damage,
His E DoT will stop, good try though.
Brand will
His passive will not, nor will his debuff that boosts his damage. Again good try.
Morg has two CC's, and does not require her ult to be useful come late game.
What's your point? both disables are completely shut down... especially her ult.
Fizz has a troll pole and can easily work around his ult.
His ult can be denied by both items you mentioned, nice that you pretend that's not the case.
Cass still does the damage unless you zhonyas, and then you're prime target for poison
So... it does exactly what I said? hmmm.
Zed ults, you zhonyas, end of engage
The same could be said about literally every engage in the game.
So basically you're talking nonsense.
Nahui1 votesI don't think you quite understand what you're talking about? The E dot drops, the ult damage does not.
His spells will still deal their damage. You can't remove one of his burst spells. You can remove death mark.
If a Morg is looking to Q and R at the same time, she deserves to lose both to QSS. Realistically, QSS one, not both.
Fizz's ult is actually more use than Zed's when QSS'd. It can still hit if you do not walk out in time, and it's still a massive aoe zone that can reaatach to another target, in something like a team fight that Fizz excels at and Zed does not. Zhonyas still leaves the ult to hurt anyone around. Zed's does not. Fizz is definitely more AOE than Zed, however his safety is definitely on par with Zed and his abilities still have uses in the items that completely shut Zed down.
Nope. Zed ults you, you zhonyas, you come out unscathed and kill him. Ekko jumps on you, waits for zhonyas to end, then in fact ults onto you unless you zhonya's right as he touched you.
I don't see how this applies to darius, Garen, Aatrox, or really any of those. Their kit is designed to have an ult that is a supplement to killing power, not the factor of killing power in their kits like Zed. Yes, Zed's other abilities do damage. But come late game, he needs his ult to be effective far more than the others do, and his ult is easily negated. Wukong keeps spinning, Garen and Darius dont evem use the CD if it doesnt connect, Yi's ult is gonna be there for 15 more seconds, etc.
Look, I understand you may play ADC and don't like to build QSS or mid mage and don't like not rushing mana regen and it is definitely frustrating but Zed won't see nerfs nor does he need them. He's not dominating the pro scene because people who can play the game know he really isn't worth much. However he is a low ELO pub stomp, and even his flashy plays don't earn him a constant spot in the LCS.
We can keep discussing why you think you're right and I think I'm right. But, what determines what's correct is Riot. So until Zed gets a meaningful nerf, we can assume he is fine. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Dominick Destine1 votesI don't think you quite understand what you're talking about? The E dot drops, the ult damage does not.
Ok let's try again , because I can tell you have greatly missed the point; Explain to me which two or more of Zed's skills are completely disabled by QSS.
Oh what? you're saying that's not the case? then why are you arguing the same in the reverse scenario? durrrr.
If a Morg is looking to Q and R at the same time, she deserves to lose both to QSS. Realistically, QSS one, not both.
Land Q ---> Go for R.
Either one can be stopped by QSS or both. Your argument is nonsense.
Fizz's ult is actually more use than Zed's when QSS'd. It can still hit if you do not walk out in time
So what you're saying is, someone will use QSS to drop the ult and stand still... brilliant!
Furthermore, even if Zed's Death Mark is QSS'd, his ult still gives him unparalleled mobility (Long range gap closer + return trip from any range). If QSS completely denied him his ult, then yeah it'd be a pretty legit counter.... but as stated, it does not.
Zed's ult is more useful than Fizz's ult if we compare QSS effect, by a HUGE margin. Your argument is absolute trash.
it's still a massive aoe (Dropped Fizz ult)
https://media.giphy.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif
Alright we're done here... when you start to call Fizz's ult a "MASSIVE AOE ZONE" you are revealing yourself to be a completely unreasonable apologist ready to make the most BS arguments to blindly defend Zed.
Etc. You went full Re...generator, like Drm 
gg
Nahui1 votesWell it doesn't matter what's said here, we're just rejecting each other's logic.
Except when Zed doesn't get nerfed and his play rate evens out, it'll be clear. [slayer-jinx-catface]
Dominick Destine2 voteswe're just rejecting each other's logic.
Actually no, you got schooled hard.
Where I used logic and reason, you did not... you are grasping at straws to defend Zed, etc. this is done.
Nahui1 votesYou're entirely ignorant to points I make, while trying to relate to champs that work nothing like Zed. It's a fact that Zed's kit has the hardest counterplay when it comes to itemization, as stated by Riot themselves.
I don't need to defend Zed. I only try and enlighten others so I can spare their glasses some serious fogging when they face him. My final defense with Zed is that he won't be nerfed because he is balanced. Call him LCS big plays all you want, Riot won't keep a champ broken on purpose because that is bad for business.
He all in's, you either have Item A or B, and he fails. That's Zed's late game and his kit.
Good luck on the Rift!
Lauchmelder5 votesIt doesn't matter that Zed gets countered by one or two items!
Zhonyas negates every burst mages skills too. QSS removes the needed debuffs for a mage to get close and deal damage.
Cass Poison? QSS Morgana binding? QSS Syndra Q+E? QSS Lux Q? QSS
You can't just go around saying "Hurr Durr Zed gets hard countered by items" while completely ignoring the fact that every burst mage has the same problem.
Fact is that Zed has too high poke damage with his rotation early on in the game. If a Zed outpokes a Syndra (which is a lanebully btw) then something is SERIOSLY wrong.
He is a bloody mobile assassin. He doesn't need safe poke. If he wants to poke he should need to get close not stay in a safe range and just throw shadow + shuriken at you the second he sees your jungler somewhere else.
AnonymousPoro1 votesLast I checked QSS and Zhonyas and Exhaust weren't hard counters to any mages kit.
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Let's see...
's entire kit(excluding Crystallize, but that doesn't do damage, so it doesn't count)
's Charm(which is basically her bread and butter that opens her combo)
's Cocoon(which, again, opens her combo)
's entire kit(excluding her Twin Fangs, but she needs her poison to get that combo goin)
's Call of the Void, Malefic Visions, and Nether Grasp(aka, almost his entire kit)
's entire kit(passive included)
's Dark Binding and Soul Shackles
's Event Horizon(which opens his combo)
's passive(which is important for her combo)
's Crescendo and her W and E power cords
I'd go on, but this list has gotten long enough
Nahui1 votesAnivia keeps you chilled under her ult, and yes QSS removes the stun, but hey, the damage...still happens.
Charm can be QSS'd, and it's up a few seconds later, not to mention she does not need to land charm to maximize her kit's damage. So long as she lands the Q, you will still take full damage that she can offer.
Cocoon helps, but Rappel can get her right on you if it should fail. Again, her full damage is still very much possible.
Cass can reapply her poison quite literally about 2 seconds later and continue. Yes, that time is vital and she could very well die in that time, however, it's on a much smaller scale. 2 seconds, or about 70 seconds. Also, should you you be in her W poison field, that stays and you're still poisoned.
Malzahar yes.
Brand is a burst mage, I don't see where you're going with this. You do not need to be stunned to get hit by most of his spells. Two are click spells, two are skill shots. You can remove blaze, but his passive isn't where his damage mostly comes from. At most you may QSS his stun if he used conflagerate to blaze you in hopes to get the extra pillar damage and even then it may still hit. If you QSS his stun after he used pillar to hit you, you've done absolutely nothing. Everything else is a click. You'll just remove the passive. Which he reapplies with conflagerate.
Morgana does lose these things, however she still has extreme utility to offer when these are QSS'd in the form of her black shield. She's also long range with her binding with a very short cooldown so she can just try again soon. The ult will have to wait a while, but the 3 second snare wont.
Veigar's event horizon is only for dark matter. The rest he can easily land and still one shot carries with. And, event comes right back up shortly. QSS...does not.
Annie still deals full nuke damage with her combo. No absurdly long CC, but still full damage. And, she can get that stun back in about one rotation, which isn't long given her CDs. QSS...does not.
Sona will still deal max damage with her kit even with QSS.
Even Malzahar is still a ranged mage. He does require to get into melee to be effective. And, fun fact. QSSing his grasp only breaks the CC. Not the damage.
I did not say QSS only works against Zed. It's that it impacts his kit far more than anyone else's. Everyone up there, save Malzahar and maybe Cass, has their CC and effectiveness built into their normal kit, not just their ult. Sure, QSS Annie's stun Q. Sure, QSS Brand's Q. Sure, QSS Morgana's dark binding. It comes right back up.
Sure, QSS Zed's ult/kill potential. It comes right back u-. Wait. No. You removed his ult entirely, like it never happened. Cass will still poison you again in a second. Malz's ult is still dealing it's damage. And yes, Zed can kill without an ult. However when team fights happen, the rest of these champions have a variety of options at their disposal. Zed typically has to ult or jump on a low target to really do anything. Not to mention Malz, who honestly is the most impacted second to Zed, has the option to do his combo on those with zhonya's should someone have QSS. Zed, does not and that's what late game comes to. Zed figuring out who he can and can't ult.
Also, with QSS and Malz/Zed, Malz's is CC. So even for the briefest second, the target is CC'd before they can QSS giving rhe rest of the team or just Malz himself time to do damage. Zed does not impact the target at all upon ult.
These QSS issues aren't about the 1v1's. It's about the team fights. It's simply fact that Zed is most heavily impacted by QSS.
Nahui1 votesAnd Exhaust affects everyone yes, however with the way his ult works. exhaust especially affects him. When you take a skill that calculates damage based off of previous damage done in a time frame, any way to reduce that previous damage will also highly negatively impact the ult. AKA, exhaust.
Abyssphere2 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lBE1hRIP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-28T22:31:22.914+0000)
They got reverted?
I'm somewhat pleased.... but at the same time disappointed.
The funny part is, Sejuani wasn't even that good .... not even during Cinderhulk's reign. You'd still see Lee Sin, Elise, Gragas and others before you'd see Sejuani. Current Zed is far more overpowered than Cinderhulk era Sejuani.
Sejuani had an 85%+ ban rate at her peak and that lasted multiple patches. You never saw her because people never let her get picked.
Dominick Destine1 votesSejuani had an 85%+ ban rate at her peak
So what? Lee sin has had over 90% ban rate on multiple occasions.
Gragas also had a higher ban rate... and that 85% ban rate, was very brief.
YCitizenSnipsY2 votes"The funny part is, Sejuani wasn't even that good .... not even during Cinderhulk's reign. You'd still see Lee Sin, Elise, Gragas and others before you'd see Sejuani."
Becasue she was Perma banned.... Next you will tell me you didn't really see Kassadin all that much during the first half of season 4. That champion was so hated by the player base they would rather ban her almost every game than actually bother playing with her in one. That why I always laugh at you people on the boards that are so confident that the community actually likes that champion or wants to see her strong again.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesSejuani currently has a 50% win-rate; she is by no means underpowered. She is still a very strong and influential pick when played correctly.
While her damage is lower than it was previously, that's completely understandable considering the amount of AoE CC she provides, her damage being entirely AoE, her ultimate providing a safe form of engage and disengage, and her Q providing unconditional mobility.
The only buff I'd honestly like to see is a slight AA-range extension on her W-empowered basic attack (only the first hit). It can be a bit awkward to land when used as an autoattack reset, though it's still fairly reliable due to her CC.
GenghisEmo1 votesMalphite, Sion, Gragas, Udyr, Vi were all better back when Sejuani was OP.
Yes, Sej was OP. But they over nerfed her. Especially when Riot slightly nerfs everyother OP, then nerfs the item that was OP, and ovre buffs other champs. Sej just fell off. Still viable, very much so. But not as good of a choice as say something that is more OP.
The Bearded Bard1 votesNo one has fun vs CC tanks.
EndlessSorcerer5 votes
We shall agree to disagree on this matter.
Shroom Junkie2 votesAs an assassin main I can say, nobody has fun vs assassins. Along with my main being Teemo(yes I do consider him an assassin, as I build bursty), his early game poke is fucking ridiculous and nobody has fun with mages/adc's with strong poke. I can personally say I don't like tons of gap closers(Lee Sin, Fiora, etc.) and I don't like Yi with his MS and slow resistance ult, and I don't like mages or people with revives or can stop death(mages for zhonyas, aatrox, trynd, zilean for revives), and I don't like other assassins.
Yeah I don't have fun against a lot of people but I make up for it with the fun I do have. The difference with CC tanks are they're super balanced(when they don't have 2000 damage in their kit along with the CC by just building tank).
The Bearded Bard1 votesI have plenty of fun as and vs assassins. People that aren't good at the game don't enjoy playing against assassins because assassins prey on dumb people.
Mcprowlington1 votesBecause it was a pretty significant change. Being able to combo and slow off of your teammates slows is something no other champ can do anything close to. It probably came with a host of clarity issues or maybe it just felt really awkward to do. Or hell, maybe they just thought itd be an awesome theme for a new champ kit but really doesnt fit Sej thematically at all.
Either way, give it a few days.
OverpoweredSoap1 voteshttps://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/47svyj/226_pbe_update/d0few6e
(It's from reddit because riot likes to post more on there when it comes to talking about balance it seems)
The rioter said they were gonna do so more small changes later on and try a bigger ability change in the future.
So yeah.
She's not getting dropped completely.
Not to mention she's also keeping the other changes she got as well.
Slamurai Jack1 votesMeh, I don't really want Riot to buff her. I'll take the 2 QoL changes we're getting but I'd much rather leave it at that. So tired of my champions getting buffed and then becoming FOTM.
CrazedPorcupine1 votesConsidering Sejuani's sitting at pretty much a dead even 50%, I'd say she's fine.
The top/best junglers are sitting at 53%+ winrates right now, and they're all considered borderline OP or OP, so yeah...
Meep Man1 votesShe still has some changes. People seem to think Sej is in a bad place. They are naive. Going from 56% win rate to 50% is not getting dumpstered. Its a good thing. Usually people at 56% drop down to 44% afterwards, so this is a good thing.
J Eevo1 votesSome time ago she had a PBE change where she could E off of allied unit's slowing their opponents. PBE patch of 1st march has a buff to the damage of early ranks of E
Stop panicking, and let them do their job, she is clearly going to get a buff in the near future.
