Please make it easier for mages to reach 40% cdr

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Well considering you usually only buy either Athene's or Morello, there's 20%, I usually buy Ionian Boots, depending on the champion, so for example, I'll say I'm playing Lux, 30% in all. Now what's my next buy? Because I really want that 40% for my ult and already long cd's on my other spells. I can't buy Wota or Nashors, Lich Bane would be a possibility, but there are more important items to build in their place, and even then Lich Bane isn't even that great on her, because it kind of synergizes with her extremely unsafe passive, so what do I do now? And that's just one example, what about Vel'Koz or Anivia, where you don't get Ionian boots. Wota, Lich, and Nashor's are all very champion-specific items, hence why they can't be utilized on a majority of mages.

I am having extreme difficulty reaching 40% CDR on

Before I could reach that just with masteries, Ionian Boots, WotA, and either runes or Spirit Visage.

Now it seems like it's impossible to reach 40% CDR on Vladimir. He has essentially been nerfed.

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Where's your CDR/lvl glyphs?

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The problem with your premise is that while it's true that mages tend to have more utility, they are extremely reliant on their spells. They don't have strong auto-attacks like the ADCs do, and very few of them can sustain themselves during a battle.

Also, most of the items that you mentioned do not benefit most mages.

is of little use for most mages. Almost all of them have AoE spells so they get less from the "spellvamp" passive. Also, most mages do not have sustained damage; instead they are built to burst the enemy as fast as possible. Because of this, they are better off building for killing the enemy as fast as possible instead of going into prolonged battles with him.

and are useless for manaless champions. Also, almost no mage is mana hungry to the point that they have to build both Athenes and Morello. Mages that are extremely mana hungry to that point generally build or instead.

is useless for most mages because they are not auto-attack based and they don't have on hit effects to complement the passive from Nashor's Tooth.

Not all mages benefit from Lich Bane's passive, because most of them don't have time to auto-attack between a spell rotation. When a mage uses Lich Bane, it's generally because he has an auto-attack modifier. For example, . But for example, would not use Lich Bane very well because she has no auto-attack modifiers and doesn't have time to auto-attack between her spell rotation. Some mages DO have time, but they are still generally better off not building Lich Bane because it is an unsafe item for them, for example, Lux and Ziggs.

In short, mages are having a hard time reaching 40% CDR because the options they have do not benefit them much.

Go %20 CDR on runes, it's useful.

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RE: "Lich bane isn't good on Lux" I'm honestly not sure why anyone would say something like that. Her passive can deal over 1000 damage if you have Lich Bane and Nashor's Tooth. I did the math, and I've built it multiple times. It's crazy powerful.

It's not that Lich Bane is bad on her, is that it is risky, she has so much range, and has to get near her target to proc her passive. She is squishy. In addition, she has no auto-attack modifiers like Viktor. It is an optional item that can increase her burst, but you have to consider how much the enemy is a threat to you in terms of range.

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What? Do we play the same game?

champion.gg -> statistics -> midlane -> chose either winrate/role position/position change Mages are DOMINATING midlane.

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• late-game mage builds usually need at least rabadon's, void staff and boots. That leaves you with only 3 item spots for CDR items. You might want to build liandry's+rilay's, or zhonya's, RoA, archangel's, Luden's....

So basically you are saying.. That mages do have more options for CDR items (you can't deny that one, seeing how it is a fact). And you also can't deny that they do have several 20% CDR items which AD casters lack. But your problem is that.. Mages do have too many other awesome items they'd want to build? First world problems dude.

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What? Do we play the same game? the problem with CDR items is that they're niche items, Morello's 80AP is nice, but not all champions need grail's huge mana regen, or Lich bane, or Nashor's. But all AP champions need CDR.

Duh. They need 1 CDR and 1 niche item to get to 30%. Everyone needs atleast one of these niche items. Then they are at 30% CDR - why would everyone NEED to have 40%? If they want to get it, then whatever, they can get it. The thing is, that Mages don't really need 40% desperately so that they chose not to build 40%. >Because they have the option< AD Casters don't really have too much of an option.

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• Most mages are burst mages and benefit more from MPen boots than CDR boots early on.

Again: the option to get CDR is there - however there are EVEN BETTER choices. It's not that there is not enough CDR items for Mages - there are simply too many other options which are even better. Let's just delete Rabadons and Zhonyas, I'm sure the problem of lacking CDR is gone :>

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Meanwhile ADC's can build whatever they want, IE is not mandatory anymore as there are better mid-game options, you can get 30 CDR from an item that also gives you the highest possible AD(65), 20% crit, and makes you manaless. It gives you everything you need to deal damage, unlike Grail.

Who cares about ADC's tho. Last time I checked they are not midlane. They don't even need CDR that much, so whatever. Weird comparison tbh.

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Of course CDR is more valuable on AP champions, so it's kinda OK that it's harder to get.

Yea harder to get than on ADC's. But still ways easier to get than on AD Casters.

lol why so rude?. if they make me spend 1.5k then they did their job. and am sure their cdr isn't 90 seconds.