FYI Any game that has to punish you for quitting, probably isn't very fun

Luigi Tortellini·Sep 21, 2018·3 votes·1,844 views

If the game was actually fun, you wouldn't want to quit. Even if the game was not fun but not overly frustrating, the game wouldn't have to punish you for quitting. Siege and CSGO give a very light slap on the wrist for leaving ranked games. Despite this I almost never leave, even if a player spanks me several rounds in a row, that just makes me wanna spank him back even more the next round. In League because of the way snowball works this usually isn't within the realm of possibility. For every mistake you make early game, the enemy has to make at least 2 mistakes for you to catch up later (usually more).

27 Comments

Cind3rkickSep 21, 20184 votes

I take it your triggered you got leaverbuster after leaving a game because you gave away first blood?

Luigi TortelliniSep 21, 20181 votes

That grammar is a catastrophe but I think I understand what you're trying to say. That said you are half right, League is the only game where I will leave a game without a second thought the moment I think a game is over. The only people who seem to be triggered by it are my teammates who actually think their LP means anything to anybody. That and the reddit community who have this bizarre religious zeal that all games are winnable (when they are most definately not).

There's no fun to be had once a game is unwinnable since the rest of it is basically an unskippable cutscene where the enemy takes baron and pushes your base.

Cind3rkickSep 21, 20182 votes

Tbh most games arent "unwinnable" atleast not enough so that you would be getting leaverbuser if you leave them all

Luigi TortelliniSep 21, 20181 votes

I'd say on average 1/3 of games are unwinnable but thanks to Riots lovely matchmaking they usually come in streaks. So you might win 10 games in a row, but the moment matchmaking catches on you're in some deep shit. That said leavebuster really isn't much a problem. If you think you're gonna get banned you can just int instead which is actually great for climbing since it keeps frustration to a minimum and gets you in your next game faster.

The Rain Man, love him or hate him, actually has this down to a science and is constantly getting new accounts to upper plat within a week.

The point of this post is that leavebuster or not, you are not obligated to finish a league game if you don't feel like it. It's supposed to be a game not a job lol.

chipndip1Sep 21, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktiTE44J,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T19:16:47.556+0000)

I'd say on average 1/3 of games are unwinnable but thanks to Riots lovely matchmaking they usually come in streaks.

This is why not every opinion has value.

NocturnalSheildSep 21, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktiTE44J,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T19:08:44.645+0000)

That grammar is a catastrophe but I think I understand what you're trying to say. That said you are half right, League is the only game where I will leave a game without a second thought the moment I think a game is over. The only people who seem to be triggered by it are my teammates who actually think their LP means anything to anybody. That and the reddit community who have this bizarre religious zeal that all games are winnable (when they are most definately not).

There's no fun to be had once a game is unwinnable since the rest of it is basically an unskippable cutscene where the enemy takes baron and pushes your base.

Man. Cant wait for that perma ban to hit you.

You legit just said "fuck my teammates no one gives a shit about their enjoyment"

Why are you even playing multiplayer TEAM BASED games when you obviously dont give a shit about your team?

R107 GamesSep 21, 20181 votes

He'll only get a perma ban if he leaves an extreme amount of games or if he blatantly admits to afking

Luigi TortelliniSep 21, 20181 votes

That is not what I "legit just said". I said I'll leave a game if it's over, aka hopelessly lost with no hope of a comeback. Because at that point, the game becomes a waste of time for me AND my team. Oftentimes teammate are delusional and can't accept when a game is already lost, and all it takes is 2 of these people to hold the rest of the team hostage in surrender votes.

I'm not so much preventing the enjoyment of my teammates as I am ending their suffering. This kind of situation really only exists in LoL hence the pessimistic title of this post.

Maybe you'll get it when you finish college and start your own career, but I don't have much team to play games these days, leaving me little patience for the delusional never surrender people who are holding me hostage in lost games.

NocturnalSheildSep 21, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktiTE44J,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2018-09-21T20:10:24.434+0000)

That is not what I "legit just said". I said I'll leave a game if it's over, aka hopelessly lost with no hope of a comeback. Because at that point, the game becomes a waste of time for me AND my team. Oftentimes teammate are delusional and can't accept when a game is already lost, and all it takes is 2 of these people to hold the rest of the team hostage in surrender votes.

I'm not so much preventing the enjoyment of my teammates as I am ending their suffering. This kind of situation really only exists in LoL hence the pessimistic title of this post.

Maybe you'll get it when you finish college and start your own career, but I don't have much team to play games these days, leaving me little patience for the delusional never surrender people who are holding me hostage in lost games.

Oh shit an ad hominem. How...expected.

Im a father with a 10 hour job shift. Any game time i get is taken directly from my sleeping budget. You will get no sympathy from me.

NamîsteSep 21, 20184 votes

It punishes you for quitting because you have TEAMMATES. If you didn't have teammates, it wouldn't punish you. Don't think League is fun? Then stop playing...no one is making you play...so then why you still here?

Have some sportsmanship...if you were in a football team and you were loosing but there was still quite a bit of time left on the clock, would you just walk out because you were losing? Walk out on your teammates? Why would you do that on here? Sure...you don't know these people...but these other people are dedicating 20-40 minutes of their day to play a game with YOU...win or lose.

There should be a punishment for that. When you signed up for League of Legends you AGREED to the Terms of Service and Summoners Code which INCLUDED the punishment if you quit a game before it was over. Yes, 95% of more of people didn't read it, but still got to follow it if you're playing their game. Don't like it? Don't play the game

Luigi TortelliniSep 21, 20181 votes

Don't think League is fun? Then stop playing...no one is making you play...so then why you still here?

That's literally what I do lol, and the exact reason I made this post.

ZephyrDrakeSep 21, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktiTE44J,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-09-21T20:12:07.039+0000)

That's literally what I do lol, and the exact reason I made this post.

Yet, you still play games and leave those games if things don't go your way. Then you come here whining about the game "not being fun" this is a TEAM based game. You leaving in the middle of a game is just disrespectful to the rest of your team. You leave in the middle of anyone's game regardless of what game it is is going to result in you being punished since you are wasting your teams entire time along with the opponents time. Go play a single player game if you don't want to be punished instead of whining here like your time is somehow more important than everyone else

Luigi TortelliniSep 21, 20182 votes

League is not football lmao. If you're behind in a football the enemy team will have a morale advantage but they won't have a bunch of stat increases that will make it easier for them to score and harder for you to score. A comeback is still possible. In League a comeback is 90% of the time impossible and it is a waste of time to even try.

I play Siege and CS in ranked where I also have teammates. The penalty for leaving ranked in CSGO is a 30 minute restriction from just ranked. In Siege it's the same thing but it's 15 minutes. Despite the basically non existent punishment people don't leave nearly as much as league. I think it would be better to look into that and ask why league has such a leaver problem to begin with.

What Riot opts to do instead is patch their game's design flaws with crazy leave penalties.

NamîsteSep 21, 20182 votes

League is not football lmao. If you're behind in a football the enemy team will have a morale advantage but they won't have a bunch of stat increases that will make it easier for them to score and harder for you to score. A comeback is still possible. In League a comeback is 90% of the time impossible and it is a waste of time to even try.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why my team was yelling at me as I was searching the map, getting caught out trying to find the football that our ADC/Quarterback fumbled. [zombie-brand-facepalm] Of course it isn't football. But I was comparing to team games to one another.

A Comeback is always possible the problem is no one in low elo knows how to do it. They just think that jumping in on an already fed team and trying to ace them is the right way. You have to catch up on gold and items and wait for the enemy to make a mistake or get out of position and capitalize on that. So many players too won't help ward, and won't even buy a control ward or if they do it's just one in early game. Vision is crucial, especially if behind.

I play Siege and CS in ranked where I also have teammates. The penalty for leaving ranked in CSGO is a 30 minute restriction from just ranked. In Siege it's the same thing but it's 15 minutes. Despite the basically non existent punishment people don't leave nearly as much as league. I think it would be better to look into that and ask why league has such a leaver problem to begin with.

Glad you're happy with Siege and CSGO's punishements if you leave. Riot has clearly put how they handle people that leave and it's fair. It's not like they were hiding it and surprised you with a ban. You knew the punishments and did it anyways. These "crazy leave penalties" have been around since I've been playing since S3 and probably longer...it isn't new.

KaiokoSep 21, 20182 votes

What a dumb post -- the game punishes you because other teammates rely on your presence. Go play any single player oriented game and you won't get punished. If you think it's not fun I'm not sure why you're still playing it.

meowwow7Sep 21, 20181 votes

i would say single player games won't punish you for quitting, but then i remembered mr resetti from animal crossing, and not getting quest fee gold back in monster hunter.

Hextech OwISep 21, 20181 votes

FYI Any player that voluntary leaves multiple times an online game with real players both with and against them because he is losing, probably shouldn't deserve the privilege to play with them in the first place.

haaaaaaalpSep 21, 20181 votes

League doesn't punish you for leaving lost games. I afk every game once it is lost and my allies refuse to ff and I never get punished for that. Open mid is very popular on some servers and no one complains about getting punished for it. You have to be doing something else wrong to get punished.