Is there a reason, 5 years later, Yas can still ult other knockbacks?

Luigi Tortellini··25 votes·7,239 views

I don't understand why getting in Range of Nautilus or Vi ult gets to mean you just insta die if they have a Yas. Who thinks of this garbage. Stop overloading "skillfull champs" with so many damn crutches, and give them a fucking mana bar.

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DuskDaUmbreon10 votes

Because otherwise his knockup would have to be far more accessible in a teamfight for him to ever be useful...?

Luigi Tortellini23 votes

You mean a "high skill" champ would actually have to properly setup their ult rather than just mash R on who they want to die? He already has no cooldowns and infinite mana, they could at least restrict his ult a tiny bit.

DuskDaUmbreon7 votes

It's restricted by requiring a knockup and putting him right in the middle of the enemy team as a squishy.

Most knockups are fairly short in duration, to the point where you sometimes can't actually ult off of them once you consider normal human reflexes and ping.

And how the fuck is he going to set up for his knockup when the only way he's getting it is the minions his team is automatically mindlessly clearing before the fight?

Luigi Tortellini10 votes

He can hit champions with Q too

DuskDaUmbreon5 votes

Did you miss the part about where he's squishy as fuck and is going to get his ass combo'd to death if he tries to stack Q on champions?

Corvin07163 votes

Did you miss the part about where he's squishy as fuck and is going to get his ass combo'd to death if he tries to stack Q on champions?

ROFL

Ever heard about his disgusting autoshield or his even more disgusting windwall?

"he's squishy as fuck" xDxDxD

DuskDaUmbreon4 votes

You mean the shield that lasts a second and usually dies to two hits from most abilities? And the wall that roughly half of attacks go through, including the attacks that are the biggest threat to him?

He can have all the windwalls he wants Darius is still going to kill him before he hits the ground after Darius presses E. As are nearly all juggernauts or assassins, and if you're not seeing juggernauts or assassins in almost every game on your team then you're not at a tier where you have to worry about Yasuo.

And that's just the classes that counter him. That's not even considering the fact that no fucking ADC is dumb enough to stand on top of his fucking wall.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

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Did you miss the part about where he's squishy as fuck and is going to get his ass combo'd to death if he tries to stack Q on champions?

Uhh, doesn't he have a shield passive that protects him from damage? Plus Yasuo players often tend to take conqueror sooo...

The thigh guy1 votes

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Did you miss the part about where he's squishy as fuck and is going to get his ass combo'd to death if he tries to stack Q on champions?

Yasuo hasn’t been squishy in years. :/. Between phantom dancer, his free shield, his conquerer, his deaths dance/bloodthirster and his reset on his free shield, he is tanky as fuck.

Pika Fox2 votes

Yeah, no. Not happening in a major 5v5 fight. He would be dead before he got the 3rd Q off, unless someone was so far out of position that yasuo didnt matter, anyone could take advantage of it.

Luigi Tortellini5 votes

He has infinite dashes and a wind wall... wind wall is better than most ults

Pika Fox2 votes

Infinite dashes.... Which require an enemy target with a CD per target... Not very infinite if theres a finite number of restricted uses.

Windwall.... Is not better than most ults. It blocks projectiles from passing through, and thats it. A strong defensive move for a squishy melee with very limited capability to close the gap on his own. Not to mention yas loses to most melee matchups quite handily.

Just the Lip9 votes

upvote for the name italian as fuck

Grouchy Poro7 votes

Yasuo level 16 0% cdr has a 30 second ultimate....not sure what rioter is behind yasuo but i don't like him/her nor do i like anyone that plays that #### champion

Midg3t3 votes

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Yasuo level 16 0% cdr has a 30 second ultimate....not sure what rioter is behind yasuo but i don't like him/her nor do i like anyone that plays that #### champion

CertainlyT. Also know as the father of Akali Darius (not sure about him) Kalista Thresh Zoe and Warwick

MessyStuff5 votes

The old Darius, not the reworked version.

Midg3t1 votes

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The old Darius, not the reworked version.

aaaa I see, ty 4 correcting me :D

Grouchy Poro2 votes

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CertainlyT. Also know as the father of Akali Darius (not sure about him) Kalista Thresh Zoe and Warwick

but none of those champions are even close to as horrible as Yasuo .Darius is way over tuned but when he finally gets the nerfs he actually needs he will be balanced

Flashes3 votes

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but none of those champions are even close to as horrible as Yasuo .Darius is way over tuned but when he finally gets the nerfs he actually needs he will be balanced

Dude do you even REMEMBER Akali, Kalista, and Zoe on release?

Those three were COMPLETELY broken. Kalista and Akali had to be completely gutted for a while, and now are becoming "viable" again.

Zoe was never truly gutted.

Flashes1 votes

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CertainlyT. Also know as the father of Akali Darius (not sure about him) Kalista Thresh Zoe and Warwick

He is the father of the reworked Darius after the Juggernaut Update iirc

Saianna3 votes

as everyone said already, CertailyT. The creator of greatest cancer-champs LoL has.

D357R0Y3R6 votes

And Cass is able to empower E with other poisons

And Kai'sa is able to ult out of other CCs

your point?

Luigi Tortellini2 votes

Some of these are not like the others

Zed genius4 votes

because reasons?

Ackelope1 votes

they are different in specificity, but you have not at all explained why you think it's broken or should be removed or would be a healthy change for the balance of the champion.

Luigi Tortellini1 votes

Cass empowering E with other poisons is more of a gimmick than anything. There are so few champions with poison the interaction will rarely come into play. In addition Cass can already poison her own targets very easily with her spammable Q and large W. Lastly, the consequence of being poisoned by another champ means if Cass is within her short range, she will deal more damage. Not instant death.

Yasuo can jump in from almost a full screen away, refresh his shield, gain armor pen, deal damage, and extend the duration of any CC. Not only does this mean instant death for anyone within a screen of Yasuo, all he had to do was point and click R once.

Kai'Sa should hardly be used as a model of balanced gameplay. She was given the ally interaction not because she needed it but so she can make LC$ big plays with her support. She didn't get to be the #1 ADC in pick rate by being fair and balanced.

5050BS6 votes

CT shit design is why.

Yasuo breaks so many rules its not funny

KFCeytron4 votes

Have you considered that ulting off a teammate's displacement ability was the primary intent, with his own Q3 being more of a backup system?

Malix Farwin3 votes

I do not have a problem with his ult at all, its the other parts of his kit that are problematic like the double crit passive and windwall.

14daysuspensionk3 votes

Fuck he even gets the ult off of MINOR knockups, like Pyke hook. It's ridiculous. It should only procc on abilities that primarily have knockups as the main thing, and NOT if a knockup is just a small part of it.

Haze972 votes

Legit got ulted by Yasuo last week after this Darius pulled me. Looks like I'm going to have to find a new moba.

Naqel3 votes

Yas in general has way too many tools.

He has crazy mobility near minions/in teamfights, he has crazy initiation range with minium setup, he can use his mobility on top of a shield and windwall to mitigate damage.

He is literally the most cancerous and overloaded champion to play against.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

That's how it's always worked and that's how it's intended to work. His ult works on displaced champions not just champions that have been knocked up

Luigi Tortellini3 votes

If he was always a shit design and always intended to be shit design, doesn't be he shouldn't be changed.

Pika Fox2 votes

You do realize yas' ult puts him in melee range ontop of the enemy, likely next to multiple, right? Guess what squishy, melee champions dont like? Being literally ontop of the entire enemy team.

topisjngcoinflip1 votes

yeah sure he doesnt have a shield or his r resets his shields sure....his base stats are so low sure,......

Pika Fox2 votes

Yes, so OP, cant counter, which is why every tournament win is 5 yas.... No? Well, one yas then. ....no? Hmm... Seems good players know hes trash tier and that a squishy melee that junps into the middle of your team is an easy kill

Daedric Etwahl2 votes

Tbh I understand and am fine with him being abke to use it off of stuff like Nautilus R, Vi R, Ornn R, etc. As long as yknow, they're actual knockups.

What I don't agree with is the fact that shit like Nautilus hook and Darius pull count as "airborne" for his ult

Saezio1 votes

You mean 7 years later?

Also, yes there is a reason, he would be straight up useless in teamfights if he couldn't.

Naqel3 votes

That would be an improvement to the game's overall quality.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

ok.. are you going to give him an extra knockup then? or are you going to make it so that it's easier for him to land his Q knockup? Hell I can do the exact same thing you are doing to every single champion. Why does Annie have a stun passive? Why does Maokai passive heals him? why does Braum's passive proc from allies attacks? why does Sona's abilities grant her team buffs?

Śhunpo1 votes

I mean, tbh I hardly ever use ult on other peoples' knockups, I use that as an opportunity to dash around the fight, stack Q and THEN use my ult, since that allows me to be in control of the fight. Even when I do use Yas' ult it's moreso because I have to in order to guarantee an unclean kill from a forced gank than to actually be useful.

To be completely honest they could get rid of it and Yasuos would still do incredibly well since his knockup is really accessible, especially once you master the E->Q cooldown refund trick.

wmbkryboy1 votes

His ult should be single target and/or it should not extend the duration of CC for targets beyond the first. It's too broken with things like Ori ult or Malphite ult.

Syrile1 votes

"Keep Yasuo Strong" Rule number one of the "balance" team for Riot.

Also, the problem is they have overtuned the champions that are traditionally considered difficult. Yasuo has never had a particularly high skill floor, regardless of what people scream about him. He is really deceptively easy to play. However, with the overtuning of champions that once were niche (because they were hard and extremely powerful if you mastered them), they have all but removed the skill-floor from League of Legends.

Riven, Vayne, and Thresh, all having an incredibly good win-rate at low levels for long periods of time are just a few of the examples. They used to be difficult but now, just push buttons and aim kinda in the right direction and you will get free wins.

Haze971 votes

Legit got ulted by Yasuo last week after this Darius pulled me. Ffs, I don't understand why he gets to ult me over a pseudo hook.

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