When you get paired with 3 or 4 champs who can't play or just started playing! It's impossible. When they are argue before the start of a game and during and even after! It's impossible. When it's 0-7 in the first ten mins. Welcome to every one of three games for me. I don't care if you are Diamond or above, you cannot with your team constantly feeding. And I mean every time. You can't. And if you say you can you are lying.
Dryditch9 votesThought you were starting a new account. Something about abandoning this one because it was so hard to carry.
Lyless1 votesThought you were starting a new account. Something about abandoning this one because it was so hard to carry.
takes to long to get to lvl 30. They need to speed that up.
Angry Monster4 voteswhen are you going of run out of excuses? Cause you are taking to long and need to speed that up
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=koLe3ssV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-15T00:18:57.929+0000)
when are you going of run out of excuses? Cause you are taking to long and need to speed that up
do you want to watch a game where this happens? I am getting sick of you guys denying the truth! Bot fed like hell and top didn't show till after 9 mins! You cannot carry anyone like that!
Dryditch4 votesHi. I'm in Bronze 5 again (Started treating Ranked like Norms and testing things. That was unwise). Last time we spoke, I was still Bronze 3, and I'm on my way back out. Yes, there are idiots. No they are not uncarryable.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2186767594/212207004?tab=overview In this game, for example, our ADC was stoned out of her mind (and admitted as such several times), Riven was feeding for the first ten minutes, and I still managed to help my team emerge victorious, even if I made some dumb plays later into the game.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2183598768/212207004?tab=overview In this particular game, our team was getting utterly destroyed for the first 20-ish minutes. Careful objective control and strong CC managed to let my team tip the balance with proper kill distribution and smart itemization.
As I remember, you play pretty much exclusively Sejuani, Nocturne, and Cho'Gath. Luckily for you, Sejuani is considered Tier 1 jungle, and Cho'Gath is extraordinarily strong in top lane this season. By focusing on your own play, and translating that into intelligent, safe ganks on other lanes, you can start to climb back out.
Stop complaining, start focusing on yourself instead of your team, and win.
Lyless1 votesHi. I'm in Bronze 5 again (Started treating Ranked like Norms and testing things. That was unwise). Last time we spoke, I was still Bronze 3, and I'm on my way back out. Yes, there are idiots. No they are not uncarryable.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2186767594/212207004?tab=overview In this game, for example, our ADC was stoned out of her mind (and admitted as such several times), Riven was feeding for the first ten minutes, and I still managed to help my team emerge victorious, even if I made some dumb plays later into the game.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2183598768/212207004?tab=overview In this particular game, our team was getting utterly destroyed for the first 20-ish minutes. Careful objective control and strong CC managed to let my team tip the balance with proper kill distribution and smart itemization.
As I remember, you play pretty much exclusively Sejuani, Nocturne, and Cho'Gath. Luckily for you, Sejuani is considered Tier 1 jungle, and Cho'Gath is extraordinarily strong in top lane this season. By focusing on your own play, and translating that into intelligent, safe ganks on other lanes, you can start to climb back out.
Stop complaining, start focusing on yourself instead of your team, and win.
Winning two games and climbing out Bronze are two different things. I am focusing on myself. Kinda hard to do when the game over before I get to lvl 7
Dryditch2 votesHere's my op.gg page. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=dryditch
Obviously I've lost plenty of games, and I've won a decent amount. Over the last 20, however, my winrate is higher than my loss rate, because I'm playing intelligently, picking for what my team needs (which is almost always someone who can provide decent CC) and trying to distribute kills to people who can use them at various points. Early pressure laners get a kill on my ganks. Sandbaggy laners get an assist if all goes according to plan.
Typically, if a game is over before you get to lv 7, that means either your entire team has fed and you can no longer even teamfight or 4v1 for a pick... OR you didn't do your job well enough by roaming and protecting/feeding your own team. Even a mongoloid can win if they have all the damage ever, and if you lay down some wonderful peel. Feed your idiots, and watch them grow.
Lyless1 votesHere's my op.gg page. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=dryditch
Obviously I've lost plenty of games, and I've won a decent amount. Over the last 20, however, my winrate is higher than my loss rate, because I'm playing intelligently, picking for what my team needs (which is almost always someone who can provide decent CC) and trying to distribute kills to people who can use them at various points. Early pressure laners get a kill on my ganks. Sandbaggy laners get an assist if all goes according to plan.
Typically, if a game is over before you get to lv 7, that means either your entire team has fed and you can no longer even teamfight or 4v1 for a pick... OR you didn't do your job well enough by roaming and protecting/feeding your own team. Even a mongoloid can win if they have all the damage ever, and if you lay down some wonderful peel. Feed your idiots, and watch them grow.
you are assuming I have team that's smart and not arguing. So even if I set them up, they won't follow though.
Dryditch5 votesI'm assuming one fucking thing, Lyless. ONE. FUCKING. THING.
That you, who plays on the NA server, just like I do, do not get a team full of Dunkey's Malphites and Tyler1s every single time you load into a game.
Let me tell you one simple fact. Unless you are being systematically targeted by Riot due to some grand conspiracy, you are NOT getting feeders, flamers, and arguing teammates every game. OH! And even if you are, there's always more you can do--champions you can learn to climb, mechanics you can master on the champions you already do play, or even just better gank paths and vision use. I know you've said you've tried every champion, but sometimes your champions aren't strong because of nerfs or because their natural predators are buffed.
Get better at the game, because from what I hear, and from what I see, you're the one causing the problem.
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, maybe you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens
Lyless1 votesI'm assuming one fucking thing, Lyless. ONE. FUCKING. THING.
That you, who plays on the NA server, just like I do, do not get a team full of Dunkey's Malphites and Tyler1s every single time you load into a game.
Let me tell you one simple fact. Unless you are being systematically targeted by Riot due to some grand conspiracy, you are NOT getting feeders, flamers, and arguing teammates every game. OH! And even if you are, there's always more you can do--champions you can learn to climb, mechanics you can master on the champions you already do play, or even just better gank paths and vision use. I know you've said you've tried every champion, but sometimes your champions aren't strong because of nerfs or because their natural predators are buffed.
Get better at the game, because from what I hear, and from what I see, you're the one causing the problem.
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, maybe you're the asshole." -Raylan Givens
the stats say otherwise. why don't you look at what I m paired with. And I do get teammates who do what I said about 50% of the time.
Here is my match history look at their KDA!
Dryditch4 votesKDA doesn't mean shit, especially when it doesn't show how far into the game people died or who was assisting, or if their deaths were intended to get someone out of a jam, or even to initiate. Again, your bot lane dying might have been due to a 3 man or 4 man gank, which I can't see in the match history. If that's the case, why didn't you take top tower, gank another lane, or head on down there to counter that gank and potentially turn it around?
Also, when I say "based on what I hear," I mean based on what you're saying in this thread, which is almost entirely: "wah wah wah. I have the cognitive function of a lemming, and as such, cannot transition my own play into better team-play. wah wah wah."
I can try and help you by suggesting ways to improve, or I can fuck off and leave you here with all the other people who agree that you're obviously cursed. Which would you prefer?
Lyless1 votesKDA doesn't mean shit, especially when it doesn't show how far into the game people died or who was assisting, or if their deaths were intended to get someone out of a jam, or even to initiate. Again, your bot lane dying might have been due to a 3 man or 4 man gank, which I can't see in the match history. If that's the case, why didn't you take top tower, gank another lane, or head on down there to counter that gank and potentially turn it around?
Also, when I say "based on what I hear," I mean based on what you're saying in this thread, which is almost entirely: "wah wah wah. I have the cognitive function of a lemming, and as such, cannot transition my own play into better team-play. wah wah wah."
I can try and help you by suggesting ways to improve, or I can fuck off and leave you here with all the other people who agree that you're obviously cursed. Which would you prefer?
These are people who haven't view the games, much less played them. I find it weird you would take the side of people who didn't see the game. You would take guessing over actually first hand accounts? Bot lane is dying by feeding and not playing safe. 2 on 2. Stop making every excuse in the book for them.
Me improving won't stop them from feeding. It's like I said all along, you can't talk to people not willing to listen. Your talking won't stop that from happening and me leaving top won't help either. You can do what you want because you were bias from the jump.
Dryditch1 votesOK, so I'm guessing you're talking about a bot lane that just intentionally fed or was destroyed 2v2. If that's the case, then on the enemy team, there's a bot lane that's getting equally fed. On average, you should be on each side of that divide 50% of the time. It's up to you as a jungler or top laner to make sure you win your own lane/snowball another in as many of those games as possible to tilt the balance away from 50/50. Just because you're not "losing" your lane does not mean you're having a positive impact on the game. You could be 0/3, but have completely snowballed your mid or bot to the point that their towers are gone.
All I'm suggesting, you insufferably obstinate buttmunch, is that while some games are unwinnable (being down 40 kills with a team that can't effectively waveclear against regular supers, let alone baron empowered minions), most are not, and you can make smart decisions that apply pressure to the map elsewhere so your losing lanes aren't hit as hard.
Enemy jungler shows bot and they can't fight back? Pressure top, steal his jungle farm, take a tower, or just secure an objective like rift herald for your top or mid laner.
Enemy jungler top, and you're already bot side? Dragon, gank bot to provide them with a chance to come back into the game (if they're not 0/7 by the time you get there).
There are options. Whether you choose to take them or not is up to you.
Dryditch1 votesWhat part of my carefully worded instructional post is too complicated for your submolecular brain to process?
Was it the fact that in a game with 2 teams, probabilistically, you'll get good players 50% of the time and bad players 50%? The difference in those situations is you. The enemy team has a chance of getting 5 players worse than you, where you have a chance of getting only 4. If you're better than 50% of the players in your elo, you will eventually rise.
Was it the concept of using vision to determine when and where it is safe to gank or make plays? That's just basic game knowledge that you develop when you care about the game.
Was it the part about objectives being more important than kills or deaths? Fundamentally, that's true. If you solo steal a dragon, then die for it (while your team is still in lane or otherwise not dead for that objective), that's a net positive for your team. If you die and take a tower, that's worth it. If you die and net an assist in a gank, going 0/3/3 in a game, you're still doing your job by putting your laner ahead in terms of farm and experience.
If those very simple explanations are too complicated for your permabronze mind, I really don't know what else could be said to help you, except maybe finding a different game, like competitive minecraft.
MedjaiCarnage2 votesHi. I'm in Bronze 5 again (Started treating Ranked like Norms and testing things. That was unwise). Last time we spoke, I was still Bronze 3, and I'm on my way back out. Yes, there are idiots. No they are not uncarryable.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2186767594/212207004?tab=overview In this game, for example, our ADC was stoned out of her mind (and admitted as such several times), Riven was feeding for the first ten minutes, and I still managed to help my team emerge victorious, even if I made some dumb plays later into the game.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2183598768/212207004?tab=overview In this particular game, our team was getting utterly destroyed for the first 20-ish minutes. Careful objective control and strong CC managed to let my team tip the balance with proper kill distribution and smart itemization.
As I remember, you play pretty much exclusively Sejuani, Nocturne, and Cho'Gath. Luckily for you, Sejuani is considered Tier 1 jungle, and Cho'Gath is extraordinarily strong in top lane this season. By focusing on your own play, and translating that into intelligent, safe ganks on other lanes, you can start to climb back out.
Stop complaining, start focusing on yourself instead of your team, and win.
cho'gath is never a bad jungler with ok ganks and great objective control his mid game is also a very strong one at the moment because its almost impossible to kill him as a mage. nocturne is an assassin jungler with his own cc something most of the others don't have and the addition of bloodrazor helps him tremendously. as for sej she can also play support and top if she needs to to pretty good effectiveness
Zerkr4 votestakes to long to get to lvl 30. They need to speed that up.
They already reduced the time it took man
Lyless1 votesThey already reduced the time it took man
still too long. They need to speed it up.
GaleWinUnleashed4 votesThey cut the required XP in half. Consider it from the point-of-view of a new player. That time spent leveling up is to give them time to learn the gameplay and various champion mechanics before allowing them into Ranked games. The players you're having issues with in your games might very well have done better if they'd not been allowed into Ranked for much longer, so this actually seems like an argument to make leveling up take much, much longer.
BeatzBoyFTW1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/4Y2gJBN.png
Wow, thanks for proving my point. You actually whined on the weekends & never tried to level up your account.
Guess we know who's the actual "useless" now.
Lyless1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/4Y2gJBN.png
Wow, thanks for proving my point. You actually whined on the weekends & never tried to level up your account.
Guess we know who's the actual "useless" now.
because it was taking too long.
BeatzBoyFTW3 votesNo one said it's a one day routine. Plus, Riot has already reduce the time to get to Level 30, and to add the fact that you have a bunch of 1 IP Tier 2 runes to help you pick up faster.
Do know that the time reduction to reach Level 30 is meant for new players, so that they can have all the time to learn the basics & gameplay of the game itself. And by that, as a smurf, you should have no rights to complain whether it takes too long or not.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesThey literally (and I do mean literally) halved the experience required to hit level 30 a few patches ago.
Lyless1 votesThey literally (and I do mean literally) halved the experience required to hit level 30 a few patches ago.
what part of it's too long, do you not get?
EndlessSorcerer2 votesThe fact that you are whining about it now when it used to take twice as long.
They already did speed it up.
Angry Monster6 votesSo when does Lyless become a meme of the bronze argument?
Dryditch3 votesWhich argument is that? The "I can't win because of elo hell" argument?
Cause that's bullshit
-Bronze 5.
Angry Monster3 votesyes that one.
Or
You can take everyone is wrong but me argument. Either works
Dryditch2 votesHe's been pretty much a walking meme since the day he started posting on these boards. I would like to just ignore him, but something about that argument pisses me off enough that I (who am once again climbing out of Bronze 5) feel the need to tell him to pull his head out of his ass. I hope that by strategically breaking down his multiple complaints and bellyaching, I can do my part to make these boards less idiotic.
PDE5 Inhib2 votesTo be fair, it is kind of hard to carry a team when you're support and top/mid/adc combine for a score of 11-34.
That being said, OP is typically one of those players in the category of 11-34 teammates lol.
Dryditch1 votesSupports have the hardest time carrying out of Bronze, which is why I stopped playing the role on my quest to get out. The fact is that Lyless seems to be a Top/Jungle player, and he still can't do anything to get out of Bronze except bitch about it on the boards.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesSure. But even if you're not support. If you're playing mid and the enemy voli has 4 kills and the enemy vayne has 6 kills both by 8 mins, you're not going to have a fun time.
Dryditch1 votesFair enough. Not fun, but you can sure as hell do it if you're playing well. Just means you don't bother fucking with bot lane, and go wreck top instead until you're fed enough to either assassinate them or win in a teamfight. I'll point you to that game on Vi where my caitlin was stoned off her rocker.
Sasogwa5 votesWe're all lying. We're not diamond, in truth everyone is bronze 5, everyone loses in both teams and nobody can carry anything, both nexus explode at the same time due to how bad our teammates are.
ll League God ll2 votesYou play alot of cho
You arent that good at cho
Your build is almost a mirror in every game proving you are incapable of adaptation to the game
Nothing to see here
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=ll League God ll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=koLe3ssV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-05-15T19:09:11.679+0000)
You play alot of cho
You arent that good at cho
Your build is almost a mirror in every game proving you are incapable of adaptation to the game
Nothing to see here
and you couldn't do any better. So, shut up and get lost!
ll League God ll2 votesand you couldn't do any better. So, shut up and get lost!
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Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=ll League God ll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=koLe3ssV,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-05-15T19:11:13.081+0000)
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I don't believe you could. That's a fact.
ll League God ll1 votesI don't believe you could. That's a fact.
Youre playing cho who is a tank
Sure you can build him AP, but that leaves you open to get pew pew exploded unless you are steam rolling
You are incapable of counter picking which your constant cho picks is proof of that, this is a game built around counter picking
You are trying to "carry" with a champ whos Q is easy to dodge, his W has mediocore range, and his E literally requires you to be in someones face, which his ult is the same way, with no range
There are many better choices for doing similar jobs such as nasus, just as durable, if not more durable due to his passive alone
Has infinite scaling, has a 4 second CC that allows actually catching enemys, and his E makes his Q in the zone basically 1 shot anything.
Sorry but i have nothing further to say here, you are just raging, so rage on friend
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=ll League God ll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=koLe3ssV,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-15T19:14:29.989+0000)
Youre playing cho who is a tank
Sure you can build him AP, but that leaves you open to get pew pew exploded unless you are steam rolling
You are incapable of counter picking which your constant cho picks is proof of that, this is a game built around counter picking
You are trying to "carry" with a champ whos Q is easy to dodge, his W has mediocore range, and his E literally requires you to be in someones face, which his ult is the same way, with no range
There are many better choices for doing similar jobs such as nasus, just as durable, if not more durable due to his passive alone
Has infinite scaling, has a 4 second CC that allows actually catching enemys, and his E makes his Q in the zone basically 1 shot anything.
Sorry but i have nothing further to say here, you are just raging, so rage on friend
You know I would increase my champ pool if most of the champs didn't suck. Nasus is slow. I don't like champs like him. You had nothing to say from the start. Stay gone!
EndlessSorcerer3 votesNasus (an immobile melee champion) is slow but Cho'gath (an immobile melee champion) isn't slow?
Pfft.
TheLittlestLulu2 votesYo I'm a visually impaired Lulu support main and I managed to get to diamond solo. You're just making excuses honestly.
HopFrogger2 votesHey, thought you quit. Want a rematch? I'll play Kayle again.
BluePolarizer1 votes1v1 me.
You claimed you could beat me. Well, here's your chance.
hh the thinker4 votesgame 1 of the 1v1: quinn vs cho: i just watched. you lost really hard there. guy had 4 times your cs and killed you twice. this was only 7 minutes and it was over.
game 2 watching now: reken vs olaf: 7 minutes in, and he had 2 kills on you again, plus the 5.5 times your cs. 8 minutes in and he tower dove you and got another kill. this is when you gave up on that one.
BluePolarizer4 votesI am hoping he learned a lesson in humility and respect here.
hh the thinker3 votesi already beat him in a 3v3, but it was basically 1v1. i beat him fairly hard, he made a post (which got deleted by a mod i believe) saying how he was wrong about me and that i knew what i was talking about. i think he might have forgotten since he said i was bad again or whatever afterwards, which is funny since i made him have about 10 deaths and 12 cs in our 1v1.
i hope he can actually learn this time.
Void Nargacuga1 votesI wish I could have seen that match.
BluePolarizer3 votesit was pretty cool. it shows you what happens when its plat vs. bronze. Turns out that, surprise surprise, it is unlikely that someone with a MMR of 1900 will lose against someone with a MMR of 900.
Void Nargacuga1 votesI seriously hope Lyless learned something from this.
