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Sona Power Chord/Teemo Shroom Interaction?

Orreos··4 votes·2,770 views

In the most recent patch notes, Twisted Fate's E was bugfixed so that the empowered auto attack is no longer consumed when he attacks a Teemo Shroom. Can we get a fix for Sona's Power Chord in the same manner? When she has a Power Chord ready and auto attacks a Teemo Shroom, Nidalee Bushwack Trap, Jhin Lotus Trap, Gangplank Barrel, or Illaoi Tentacle the Power Chord is consumed in what seems like a bug. It makes sense for her Power Chord to be consumed on something like a Shaco Box, Zyra Plant, or Heimer Turret because those are health based and the Power Chord deals bonus damage. Shrooms and other traps on the other hand, seem to be coded more similarly to wards in that they have a set amount of auto-attacks to destroy them and Power Chord makes no difference aside from you losing the proc if you have it. As a result of this it seems like it would make a whole lot more sense if they also behaved similarly to wards by not consuming Sona's passive. Is this how the interaction is intended, or has it simply gone unaddressed for 3+ years now?

EDIT: added more things that consume the passive

10 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

Also does the same against GP's barrels, which also consume Cait's autos...

Oh, and for Illaoi's tentacles.

Orreos1 votes

Wow yeah I forgot about those too. Added them!

Djãngo2 votes

I think a good look into consumable auto enhancements could be useful here, I don't know many myself but there are plenty that will slip under the radar if we simply just use one's we can think of. I'm aware that Urgot consumes his shot gun knees when firing at Illaoi's tentacles, and I'm not sure about interactions with other targetable units

Orreos1 votes

Yeah fair enough. It's definitely not just Sona, but this one in particular has been around long enough that more and more champions just keep adding to the list of things that consume her passive for no reason. I definitely think that Riot should be more careful with future champion releases, or maybe just simplify or standardize the rules for summonable/champion-specific pets, traps, interactables, etc.

Emmy Cha0s1 votes

Can we fix Sona to actually be a playable character, before we fix her interactions? She's been the weakest support in League since Patch 4.13. I'm genuinely surprised somebody discovered she has a negative interaction with shrooms, they're risking being reported for intentional feeding just by locking her in.

Orreos1 votes

Umm... Not sure where you've been the past few months or so, but she actually has one of--if not the highest support winrate at the moment. I've been OTP'ing her in ranked since season 5/6 and have kept a 60%+ winrate throughout two of the past 3 seasons. Yeah she's not LCS tier since she has easily exploitable weaknesses but she's far from unplayable now. There have been ups and downs since the post-Ardent Censer nerfs but I think she's actually in a really good spot right now (knock on wood). She's carried me to gold, and now plat for the first time this season.

Emmy Cha0s1 votes

Oh look, another winrate sheeple!

News flash: Sona has ALWAYS had an Artificially-Inflated winrate. Would it interest you to know that the average games that Sona is picked into is 6, yes 6 whole divisions lower than the global average ranking for where characters are picked. It's pretty fucking easy to abuse genuine noobs when you're playing 6 ranks below the average player.

Also, contrary to popular misconceptions, Sona was the WORST "healer/shielder" (just doesn't have a heal or shield, they're both garbage-tier for numerous different reasons,) the WORST mitigater that you could've built Censor on. Yes, for the exact same reasons that her "heals/shields" are garbage-tier.

Sona is genuinely the weakest character in this game and has been, every day since patch 4.13 went Live. Idgaf about your OPINIONS, because every Challenger Sona has publicly confirmed that 4.13 made her unplayable. Because Sona AS A MATTER OF FACT was LCS tier BEFORE 4.13 was FORCED onto Live in DIRECT OPPOSITION to customers' desires and she hasn't had a single legitimate pro game since. Not one. Because she is both mathematically and practically unplayable and countless professional and high-ranking players have publicly stated as such. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. She will NEVER be playable without a FULL revert or Sion-scale rework.

Çhåryzård1 votes

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Oh look, another winrate sheeple!

News flash: Sona has ALWAYS had an Artificially-Inflated winrate. Would it interest you to know that the average games that Sona is picked into is 6, yes 6 whole divisions lower than the global average ranking for where characters are picked. It's pretty fucking easy to abuse genuine noobs when you're playing 6 ranks below the average player.

Also, contrary to popular misconceptions, Sona was the WORST "healer/shielder" (just doesn't have a heal or shield, they're both garbage-tier for numerous different reasons,) the WORST mitigater that you could've built Censor on. Yes, for the exact same reasons that her "heals/shields" are garbage-tier.

Sona is genuinely the weakest character in this game and has been, every day since patch 4.13 went Live. Idgaf about your OPINIONS, because every Challenger Sona has publicly confirmed that 4.13 made her unplayable. Because Sona AS A MATTER OF FACT was LCS tier BEFORE 4.13 was FORCED onto Live in DIRECT OPPOSITION to customers' desires and she hasn't had a single legitimate pro game since. Not one. Because she is both mathematically and practically unplayable and countless professional and high-ranking players have publicly stated as such. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. She will NEVER be playable without a FULL revert or Sion-scale rework.

I singlehandedly climbed from low silver to gold 3 playing Sona. Is she easy or is she a shit champ?

You're lvl 21 and I see absolutely no match history for you in op.gg....have you...played the game..? Or do you just watch pro streamers and regurgitate what they say on the boards?

She's not the best champ but she's far from unplayable. Why would pro players pick her when there are better alternatives for pro play at the moment? Pro play only accounts for 1%, actually even less than that, of the playerbase for this game. Just because a pro streamer doesn't play a champ or chooses not to play a champ doesn't mean the champ is unplayable. There are absolutely 0 unplayable champs in this game, every single one is playable, there are just some champs that are stronger in the current meta. Sona has some easily exploitable weaknesses however she is still viable botlane.

Once again, I'm gonna ask...lvl 21...no match history, can't see any champs you've played........have you actually..........played the game? You have absolutely 0 ranked history, doesn't look like you've ever touched it or even played the champ you're complaining about. Right now the game is very high in damage overall. Sona was more viable when teamfights lasted longer and people weren't blown up in 5 seconds, however, that is not to say she is unplayable. She can be a more risky pick but she's still able to function.

Maybe she's not as viable as she could be but like....she carried me an entire tier to gold 3 and got me some sparkly rewards so she's gotta be good for something?

KirbyCake1 votes

The real problem with sona is that shes just bugged. Her auto attacks constantly go on random targets that are NOWHERE near your cursor or sometimes you cannot auto a target at all until you autoed something else first. This always happens when changing auto targets while using power chord, 100% reproducible but never fixed. It's also fairly common for her ult to not do anything whatsoever.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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The real problem with sona is that shes just bugged. Her auto attacks constantly go on random targets that are NOWHERE near your cursor or sometimes you cannot auto a target at all until you autoed something else first. This always happens when changing auto targets while using power chord, 100% reproducible but never fixed. It's also fairly common for her ult to not do anything whatsoever.

idk but that remind me of that Amumu bug who would randomly go to a different enemy champion with his Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPELI15xYDQ

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