Double standards on boards about champions and win rates and pick rates

BBW Chaser·Apr 9, 2018·4 votes·541 views

Lee sin was having 45% win ratio and 27% pick ratio

Everyone was crying "nerf lee he is broken and the reason why he has low win ratio is because bad people play him"

Thresh 50% win ratio with 36% pick ratio (Note this pick ratio and win ratio was not on this seasons it was around the lee sin crying) he now sit at 18-20% pick ratio with 48%% win ratio wich is big

everyone "Thresh is fine and he is very balanced"

Shaco with 53% win ratio and 6% pick ratio

Everyone "OH MY GOD THIS PIECE OF SHIT SHACO NEED TO BE NERFED SO MUCH BROKEN 54% WIN RATIO WITH 6% PICK RATIO ITS INSANE RIOT"

Janna 55% win ratio with 22% pick ratio

Everyone "Janna is balanced its just that this season favor her" (Even tho she have never drop bellow 54% win ratio for the last 8 seasons)

so? what the deal here?

5 Comments

KaiokoApr 9, 20186 votes

Supports vs damage dealing assassins that's the main deal.

As much as Janna and Tresh are annoying they can't function without their teams and only serve at making their teams stronger. Lee Sin however can totally fuck up your early game with no chance to get back into it and Shaco can just 100 - 0 you with no counter from invisibility before his nerfs.

BBW ChaserApr 9, 20182 votes

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Supports vs damage dealing assassins that's the main deal.

As much as Janna and Tresh are annoying they can't function without their teams and only serve at making their teams stronger. Lee Sin however can totally fuck up your early game with no chance to get back into it and Shaco can just 100 - 0 you with no counter from invisibility before his nerfs.

hmm when a champion have 55-56% win ratio it mean that if you pick that champion you can win more than half of your game because their impact on the game is huge and cause this game to be win

So wtf are you say? janna can stop and make team fights turn on her favor save the adc and make the adc stronger THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT than shaco trying to 100-0 someone which he cant when there is janna on the enemy team and not only shaco every champion

SO THAT WHY SHE NEED TO BE GUTTED among with other brain dead supports who just sit back and spam shields and by doing nothing they win the game

KaiokoApr 9, 20185 votes

Your tone seems very pointed right now considering I wasn't arguing with you and instead was trying to explain why certain things get nerfed faster than others. I'll reply once more but if you feel the absolute need to reply in all caps/insulting/downvoting I think I will abstain from wasting time.

Janna's problem is indeed that the itemization currently favors her as well as how the meta plays out with the current ADCs. It's not so much her power itself that causes her to be unbalance. With the recent changes to locket/nerf to heal/buff to ignite she's going to slowly but surely be affected. The other important fact is that they are doing a mini "rework" on the bottom lane ADCs in the upcoming couple of patches. That's bound to affect her as well. Because of the nature of her kit, she's not one that you can really nerf/buff directly through skills (if you look she really hasn't gotten that many buffs especially not to her shield that has been both nerfed in strength and in damage it gives).

Again I'm not disagreeing with you that she's strong but rather trying to make you understand why she hasn't been hit with the nerf bat. It's a lot different fixing her than fixing something like an assassin whose power directly correlates to their ability to deal damage instead of the interaction they have with their team.

BBW ChaserApr 9, 20182 votes

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Your tone seems very pointed right now considering I wasn't arguing with you and instead was trying to explain why certain things get nerfed faster than others. I'll reply once more but if you feel the absolute need to reply in all caps/insulting/downvoting I think I will abstain from wasting time.

Janna's problem is indeed that the itemization currently favors her as well as how the meta plays out with the current ADCs. It's not so much her power itself that causes her to be unbalance. With the recent changes to locket/nerf to heal/buff to ignite she's going to slowly but surely be affected. The other important fact is that they are doing a mini "rework" on the bottom lane ADCs in the upcoming couple of patches. That's bound to affect her as well. Because of the nature of her kit, she's not one that you can really nerf/buff directly through skills (if you look she really hasn't gotten that many buffs especially not to her shield that has been both nerfed in strength and in damage it gives).

Again I'm not disagreeing with you that she's strong but rather trying to make you understand why she hasn't been hit with the nerf bat. It's a lot different fixing her than fixing something like an assassin whose power directly correlates to their ability to deal damage instead of the interaction they have with their team.

first i never downvote anyone...those are not my downvotes...

secondly insult? no its not insult its me making you realize the double standards and how wrong you are!! now if that insult for you then never go out of your house cause you are gonna be in big surpise...

now janna meta is for 8 seasons now..always the same excuse

season 3 janna 53% win ratio season 4 janna 53-55% win ratio season 5 janna 52-58% win ratio season 6 janna 51-53% win ratio janna season 7 59% win ratio (Mini rework) season 8 janna 55% win ratio...i guess all the seasons favor her? hmmmmmmm....see? that why i telling you are saying BS..

And you can nerf janna simple by making her E and W scale differently or skill shot so she is not brain dead any more and she would need to actually be active in the game and set up the shield or her W through skill shots or channeling skill that would create shield or shields for the team and now this point and click Bullshits