Garen Passive Buff On PBE

JFRANKSTA·Sep 22, 2014·2 votes·988 views

so garen has a buff on Pbe.... this came out of left field since garen hasn't had any major changes since season 3.

for those of you that don't know heres whats being changed

Resume timer rescaled to 9 / 6 / 4 seconds from 9 at all levels. Health regeneration rescaled to 0.4 / 0.8 / 2% of max health per second from 0.4% at all levels. At level 11, non-epic monsters will no longer stop Perseverance.

i personaly i'm on the fence about everything other than the jungle change, but what do you guys think?

9 Comments

Lumus AvatarSep 22, 20143 votes

I love Garen, and while I'm not sure he needed to be changed at all, I'm just happy it didn't make him weaker.

YfrappefortSep 22, 20142 votes

Did he need it? Yes, since his passive was obsolete past laning (and even during laning, it was too easy to deny).

Will this fix his issues? Not at all. He will stil have a retarded high CD on his ultimate, will still get slowed in minions during his E and will still be very easy to kite since his Q is his movespeed and CC removal all at once.

Garen will need more then this for sure.

redniwediSSep 22, 20141 votes

I agree with you on everything but his ult, which I personally feel is fine as it is. If the CD is too low it will have to have it's power reduced so it is not oppressive in lane, but if we keep it as is perhaps a damage boost could be in order.

WeFlyNoLieSep 22, 20142 votes

Its a nice buff, but its not really in the direction he needs.

It will definitely give his mid to late game HP regen a nice touch inbetween fights, but it still doesn't help his overall issue of his skillset just being so outdated. I think his ultimate should have a high CD, because it is a high power execution, but as it is right now, it doesn't really warrant such a high CD. If anything, I think it should be stronger numbers-wise.

sp441Sep 22, 20141 votes

I don't think Garen needs this buff in particular.

Don't get me wrong, I like Garen, and I like to see the Might of Demacia get buffed, but I think what he needs are improvements to his overall charging ability, he doesn't really do the "fearless charging warrior" theme much justice right now because of how easy it is to get away from him. I think that giving his ult a CDR buff in case he scores a kill would be a better approach, and maybe giving his E a stacking slow to make it harder to escape from him.

ProfDrDeathSep 22, 20141 votes

I think it is an interesting change, the full implications of which are not really visible without seeing it in the live game.

For example, it will make him a big splitpush threat, since he'll be able to heal from almost zero to full in under 50 seconds with item 3065 .

NebuulSep 22, 20141 votes

I do not understand the jungle buff. By level 11, a jungle Garen does not need that buff. Why not just start it at level 1? If the concern is farming golems between pushing waves with E, then change it so that his passive ignores jungle creeps if he has a jungle machete (or if that is too cheap, then any tier 2 or larger jungle item).

GoldenLeSpoinkSep 22, 20141 votes

Its a great buff, but not to the direction that Garen really needs. His ult has a ridiculous CDR, I personally think that a way that can fix Garen, is too reset his CDR for his ult when he successfully kills someone with it. Just like Darius.

MrSc0ttySep 23, 20141 votes

Hot damn.

Mastery+warmog+Passive and Garen will literally go from half hp to full in 15 seconds. The regen will be REAL.