Wouldn't be easier to have 2 global pool about this?

The Kombinator··1 votes·894 views

My idea is to put 2 option into the launcher to vote. One is chosing a champion to buff, and another for a champion to nerf. It wouldn't force anything just give a statistic on what players would like to see somewhere on the boards.

I know popular champions would get tons of buff vote. Well that's why the nerf vote is there. If a champion is popular and strong, then even more player for ask for it's nerf.

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Posui Gart1 votes

We already have this statistics. Buff-pickrate Nerf-banrate

The Kombinator1 votes

Not necessarily. You might pick a champion exactly, because it's ridicilously OP, and would prefer to nerf it.

Also pickrate can change drastically by several factors. New champion always have big pickrate, but should we always buff that? Same goes for the latest LCS guy picking something strange. Or the LCS guy said this. Or just a big streamer said this.

Your argument literary inaccurate on all elos for the buff part. The nerf might be even accurate. Though that one also heavily dependent on champions' popularity. I might wish Veigar to be nerfed, because in midgame and later it's op as hell. But it's not popular enough to ban him.

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

pickrate and winrate also affects that the champ could have lot of OTP's ami right?

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

Riot doesn't balance the game around what players need. Riot balances the game around skin sales, lore, and the ADC reddit community.

The Kombinator1 votes

It's not about balance. It's purely about showing our desire in a simple way. If i could i would just make a pool about it, but that would need 20+ thread, beacuse each thread can have only 10 vote option

Ekhasm1 votes

Always nerf Soraka. Keep nerfing till she has 0 hp and dies on spawn

The Kombinator1 votes

You should have seen her right after rework. To be honest she is a sort of wildcard. Against fools she is incredibly powerful. Against smart enemies she is considerably weaker. Good focus+heal reduc is enough, or heavy poke+heal reduc. But really how many champions' efficiency can be reduced by ~40% from a 800 gold item?

I would alter her to be somehow resistant to heal reduction, but in return would reduce her healing capabilities. Maybe part of her heal would come as a shield, or would put shield on first cast, and if heals again while shield active, then turns whatever shield left into healing.

Crystalysk1 votes

I'm sorry but this will never work and will make the game even more unbalanced than it is already.

The Kombinator1 votes

Would you kindly read the post before posting bullshit?

"It wouldn't force anything"

By the way i'm not even sure about that.

"know popular champions would get tons of buff vote. Well that's why the nerf vote is there. If a champion is popular and strong, then even more player for ask for it's nerf."

Also just because you main something, and pick often it doesn't mean you want it to be buffed.

My main is Soraka. And while i have ideas to alter i wouldn't buff her. My buff vote would be Taric. And my nerf vote would be Hecarim. Though Hecarim is not exactly hard Soraka counter on lane either, and after first item he is not even hard counter in teamfights.

Last but not least the low number of votes would also give an information. It would mean, that the champion needs some hype, or rework, because it's totally ignored.

Crystalysk1 votes

Well, if it doesn't influence then why even put it in the client? Just another worthless feature?

I can see already the Master Yi first place because of low elo players (which is the majority of the community). Does Master Yi need any nerf?

"know popular champions would get tons of buff vote. Well that's why the nerf vote is there. If a champion is popular and strong, then even more player for ask for it's nerf."

You don't use a nerf vote to compensate a "wrong" buff vote or viceversa, that doesn't make any sense.

People have bias against champions too. And 95% of the community doesn't even understand the game 100% (me included)

This will never work and will just be left there as a useless thing. It would just make people post even more shit on the board like:

  • we voted for x nerf or x buff, why aren't you listening?

If anything a low number of votes would mean that X champion is just fine. You use play rate% to see if a champion is played or not.

The Kombinator1 votes

The low elo brainless players probably wouldn't even find the button, nor understand it's meaning. Also everything is a useless thing depending on who you ask.

I play only aram. Why ranked even exist?

Everything can be countered so why ban system exist?

Can't we just go back to blind pick only? I can play any role anyway.

Why do we need runes? Can't we just pick champion only, and play with that like in {insert other MOBA games here}

Why do we need trinkets? Can't we just go back the good old support buys the wards system?

Also rules could be created. Such as no vote below certain level, or rank. Like lvl40 at least, and above bronze 3.

Crystalysk1 votes

You claim you can play effectively every role but you are Gold with 46% win rate. This is not rank shaming, i couldn't care the less what rank people are but when you say something like that i expect you having at least 50%+ win rate minimum.

You can barely play support in your elo though.

The Kombinator1 votes

I don't. But some people does. My point is, that pretty much all part of the game can be argued with, because at least one people not involved.

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