How does it make sense that 
, 
, 
and armor items completely shut down 
in the mid-late game?
after 20min you cant kill anyone anymore and once you have used your combo you are out of energy and now you are a squishy melee that's pretty much useless.
Buffs: give W % scaling AD and Lethality
give R lethality give Q lethality
have BOTRK be used with Zed more buff items around Zed
Get Ogre Here10 votesIs this a joke? Better be a joke.
CIayman4 votesShouldn't this be in memes&games?
Reksee3 votesI respectfully disagree, my favorite champ is 
and I ban Zed almost every time I play Sol because Zed counters him and other squishy back liners so well. Believe me try playing A sol against a Zed, it is not pleasant, I'm not saying Zed needs nerfs, I'm saying he doesn't need buffs.
SnugglePuggle943 votesHow does it make sense that
after 20min you cant kill anyone anymore and once you have used your combo you are out of energy and now you are a squishy melee that's pretty much useless.
Buffs: give W % scaling AD and Lethality
give R lethality give Q lethality
have BOTRK be used with Zed more buff items around Zed
I seriously have to ask if you're joking. Not only does Zhonya's barely negate any damage Zed does, but he can ult you over three times now in the timespan that the active is down (120 seconds, used to be 90 before you Zed mains complained about it) and if he goes full CDR build. Also, he's able to kill you even after you Zhonya, even WITHOUT his ult, so I don't think Zhonya's is really a "counter" anymore.
Also, are you for real? Zed, just like other assassins, are not meant to be good mid to late game. They are early champions for a reason.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Slim Gragas2 votesThanks for giving me a laugh, next you'll say Graves needs a buff.
ZackTheWaffleMan3 votesbuff jax and conqueror
Dope Solo2 votesZed needs a weaker lane phase, the rest can be debated AFTER that is fixed.
Shmeeve1 votesat least do something that the attacks from his clones do less damage
FéliXXX1 voteshe already has a weak laning phase his q does no dmg after hitting a minon his e does no dmg he w has way too high cd he cant trade decent till lvl 4 and there is a lot of broken stuff that counters him either champs like syndra irelia akali yasuo items like armguard/zhonyas tabis corrup potis stop watch or runes like boneplating aftershock and that one that makes pots better
Vhan87652 votesZed isn't as strong as current bandwagon people are jumping on would lead you to believe, but in no way does Zed need a buff lol. The champion may be a bit strong right now in the right hands, but on average he is still below a 50% win rate; good players can play around a Zed easily.
LetMeCarry19831 votesWell this is new....
Vlada Cut1 votesHad a friend who too cried for Zed buffs. Told him he shouldn't get buffed, had buffs throughiut seasons and an indirect Duskblade nerf which had comoensates bonus lethality buff. Didn't go well. So ugh... if you are bad at Zed to the point where you cry for buffs to comoensate the lack of skill to use them I think you should use other assasins that are better lol.
FéliXXX1 votesthen why are high elo zed otps asking for zed buffs as well? laceration llstylish zedrinos are they bad at zed as well??? cmon
Vlada Cut2 votesthen why are high elo zed otps asking for zed buffs as well? laceration llstylish zedrinos are they bad at zed as well??? cmon
Ok sure. How about we buff Shaco, Tryndamere and Master Yi so theur mains could stop crying too? No thanks, I want a balanced game so Zed mains too shoukd stop whinning. You can't get buffs because you asked them to buff a champion unless the balance team determines so. Zed didn't get buffs few patches, and neither he should. End of story. [slayer-jinx-wink]
FéliXXX2 votesoh im pretty sure that you a silver 1 player knows more about the game than players who plays on master (those that i said before) back then when the champ was decent they didnt complin about him they are doing it now cos its the fcking truth they play other champs as well and they know those arent bad so i want this game to be balanced and silvers crybabys like you back into bronze well iron end of the story. [slayer-jinx-wink] what can you expect from a guy who is just looking for zed post to downvote lmao another random no life zed hater
Vlada Cut2 votesoh im pretty sure that you a silver 1 player knows more about the game than players who plays on master (those that i said before) back then when the champ was decent they didnt complin about him they are doing it now cos its the fcking truth they play other champs as well and they know those arent bad so i want this game to be balanced and silvers crybabys like you back into bronze well iron end of the story. [slayer-jinx-wink] what can you expect from a guy who is just looking for zed post to downvote lmao another random no life zed hater
Rank shames because they ran out of valid points to counter argue. Please, even low elo has higher dignity than your ego.
FéliXXX1 voteswhen ever i argue i give points i talk about facts on the game or i say what high elo players that knows about the game thinks you just came here and said whatever you want eventough that makes no sense and ur points are just ur opinion without backing it up with facts the only thing u r trying to do is looking for easy upvotes cos u r hating zed what a surprise
then why are high elo zed otps asking for zed buffs as well? laceration llstylish zedrinos are they bad at zed as well??? cmont is that not having a point?
so Zed mains too shoukd stop whinning. You can't get buffs because you asked them to buff a champion unless the balance team determines so. Zed didn't get buffs few patches, and neither he should. End of story. is that having a point or acting big without any reasons? LOL
NemeBro1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kVX4806m,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-03T13:37:02.501+0000)
Rank shames because they ran out of valid points to counter argue. Please, even low elo has higher dignity than your ego.
You didn't make any points friend. You didn't provide any insights on Zed's current strength or why it is acceptable, just stated that it was so.
You'd get run over by a kid on their middle school's debate team.
ThatsWhatSheZed1 votesYou're not wrong that zed needs a buff but the buff you're suggesting are stupid op. The number 1 option would be to remove the fall of dmg on his q. another buff would be reduce the cdr on his w. Another buff is his e so it actually does dmg instead of just slowing since its not very effective. Buff making things like his w have lethality scaling is stupid op.
HeartBreakOne991 votesIf you think zed needs a buff. Your probably the worst zed in this game. Anyone playing him always do good and yet here you are asking for a buff. Pathetic...
xXDeathbeatXx1 votesYeah, NOOOO
As a zed main, I think that his kit is already in a good place after the buffs rito gave him in patch 9.4
First of all, don't instantly burn your ult if you know that your opponent has a stopwatch. Usually, I just get ahead of people with stopwatches so that i can do massive damage without my ult and then use it after their stopwatch deactivates.
Also, you haven't played Zed recently, so you shouldn't say he needs a buff without absolute proof.
Deliberate Inter1 votesThose item's don't shut him down, what does shut him down is his inability to get onto the crit adcs in this meta (Challenger korea / ionian servers and competitive play only, he's fine in yolo queue). But yes, he deserves a little buff but itemization is the wrong way to do it. If you agree that we should balance around the pro scene and the top of the ladder, make zed passive stun 1.5 seconds against champs
Vulkus I1 votesMy guy, Zed is my second main and I can assure you he does not need a buff. I would have agreed with you before the changes he just received, but after them his main problem has been addressed and he's pretty damn strong right now.
Vargrjalmer1 voteslethality gets outscaled because of the low value of the full items, they're cheaper to get but overall you end up with less ad, I go tiamat first item personally, tiamat proc is equivalent to an extra auto and will serve far better than lethality.
Duskblade=55 ad, some lethality(forget exact numbers) and 10% cdr
BC= 40 Ad, pretty comparable, 400 HP! 20% cdr.
against melee mid laners it just feels a lot better.
KFCeytron1 votesNot sure why permabanned players care about balance.
