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Really wish MMR is based off Performance and Not Win/Loss

ButtSquid··6 votes·437 views

As the title suggests. You can be great at doing what you can, but hindered by other players. Going from plat promos to gold is tilting enough, but trying to get back is incredibly frustrating when it throws you teammates that just wont cooperate. P.s I am salty.

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MysterQ2 votes

I think the MMR system needs to be redone. But performance measures don't exist right now. If I die to give my team the win, I shouldn't be punished. Likewise, I may not play the best, but if I bring results that is what matters.

ButtSquid2 votes

Maybe if there is a fine line that would be awesome. But I just feel now a days we are hindered by other's mistakes.

MysterQ1 votes

Yes, but I have also seen many times.

I went 8-3-x while everyone else was feeding. My performance was great!.... if your team is really feeding there is no way you only have 3 deaths unless you just decided to never teamfight, to never defend a turret, etc.

Numbers don't tell the whole story.

ButtSquid1 votes

To be fair, I've had a game where me and bot went 0/0/0 because we positioned ourselves and played safe kept good cs and our bot was mostly untouched. But couldn't keep up in defending the enemy team. Numbers don't tell the whole story sure. But avoiding deaths is not something that should be viewed as negative.

MysterQ1 votes

If you won that is one thing. I would still say you guys played terribly most likely (would have to again look at more than KDA).

If you lost that is another thing. And I will still say you guys played terribly. Again would have to look at more than KDA, but if you literally did not participate in a single kill and neither died, and you lost, then something is wrong.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Maybe if there is a fine line that would be awesome. But I just feel now a days we are hindered by other's mistakes.

it's like this is a team game or something! [zombie-brand-mindblown]

ButtSquid1 votes

I'm not talking about wining/losing, I'm talking about the mmr talking a dip when you lose but did well.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I'm not talking about wining/losing, I'm talking about the mmr talking a dip when you lose but did well.

that is how the entire matchmaking works, you doing well mean absolutely nothing at all. you can be 100000000-0-0 for all i care, but if you lost that just means you have no idea how to take your advantage anywhere else. This is a TEAM game, you lost. You are not good enough simple as that. Riot isn't going to change things to make a TEAM game be more about "i don't care about my team, i just care about myself" which is what something like this would do. You avoiding deaths is a negative thing when all you are thinking is "muh KDA!" i don't care if you never died as long as you actually help the team, you not risking dying because it'll ruin your score doesn't do anything for anyone. Sorry you get nothing, you lose, good day sir.

ButtSquid1 votes

You act like I don't know how the system worked, I am merely stating that I wish it worked differently.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

the entire point of the game is to win, you failed to win. You get nothing. You make MMR more based on performance and quickly it'll devolved into "i am doing well, my team is not so i am not going to bother helping my team win since i don't actually give a damn about winning" and there would be more and more people being insanely annoying when they get 'KSd' or when someone gets their CS even though they do not need it. There is also the fact that if someone is so far ahead then all that will happen is that whoever has this huge lead will just stall the game to pad their stats instead of pushing their advantage for a win.

Another thing is that you can be 10-0-0 and someone can be 0-10-0 and they can still have the same impact on the game. Kills don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, kills are nothing more than one of the many means we have to kill the enemy nexus. Good stats don't say much without context. You can be 10-2-0 on a game you lost but we do not know if it was because you were splitpushing the entire time, killing the same dude over and over, never grouping with your team, never assisting your team, never doing anything but splitpush because that is all you care about.

ButtSquid1 votes

Sure if you lose you lose. But its never a fun time when you have someone who flames, trolls, or afks. It's the nature of the game, doesn't mean I like it. You can claim that all I do is split push from my last few games sure. But many of those games had someone making the same mistakes, not just tanking it for me, but the rest of the teammates as well.

lf virgin egirl1 votes

matchmaking is not balanced.

you can get a 2,000 game plat 3 player vs a 50 game plat 3 player and you already know who's gonna get stomped

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